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  • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

    @maikel certainly not an utopia. In a chain of links weaving a social fabric 😃 I will pass on this post quote..

    🫧 socialcoding.. (@smallcircles@social.coop)

    @_elena@mastodon.social I totally agree with you. Though I perceive existential threats that I have been posting heavily about the last 2 weeks. These exist for many years and are well-known, but are getting pretty urgent now. They hold risks we have not dealt with properly. Allow me to cross-ref to what I just posted in reply to @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk .. https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116159137251812698 The current fediverse is a marvel. What will the future fediverse be? That is the question.

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    > My feed is very carefully curated, and yet it still filters in.

    Yes, the tools we have can be much improved to offer more support for Personal social networking.

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    #100

    @smallcircles the problems are
    1. Pics of Trump face with no trump text, so filters don't work.
    2. Pics of Elon face with...see point 1. Like that all other US rage-producing club of billionaires or MAGAs.
    3. Using tags as "USpol" requires manual intervention, nobody does.
    4. Mastodon follows BOOSTS of whoever you add by default, instead of making those opt-in
    5. People don't use alt-text so filters at least filter Trump face becaus eof the alt-text.
    6. The worst one: people use other names instead to call them so filters don't work.

    What commercial media gets right:
    1. They have the power to guess...

    #Mastodon #USdefaultism

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    • maikel@vmst.ioM maikel@vmst.io

      @smallcircles the problems are
      1. Pics of Trump face with no trump text, so filters don't work.
      2. Pics of Elon face with...see point 1. Like that all other US rage-producing club of billionaires or MAGAs.
      3. Using tags as "USpol" requires manual intervention, nobody does.
      4. Mastodon follows BOOSTS of whoever you add by default, instead of making those opt-in
      5. People don't use alt-text so filters at least filter Trump face becaus eof the alt-text.
      6. The worst one: people use other names instead to call them so filters don't work.

      What commercial media gets right:
      1. They have the power to guess...

      #Mastodon #USdefaultism

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      #101

      @smallcircles

      ...to guess what's on a picture, and add it, so when you tell them "I'm not interested in Trump" it actually filters him forever.

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      • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

        Complete this sentence:

        "I experience #fediverse as a .."

        #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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        #102

        @smallcircles meadow where old man yells at clouds

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        • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

          Complete this sentence:

          "I experience #fediverse as a .."

          #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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          #103

          @smallcircles Bustling ghost village ftw

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          • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

            Complete this sentence:

            "I experience #fediverse as a .."

            #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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            @smallcircles Cosy neighbourhood in a bustling city.

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            • maikel@vmst.ioM maikel@vmst.io

              @smallcircles

              ...to guess what's on a picture, and add it, so when you tell them "I'm not interested in Trump" it actually filters him forever.

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              #105

              @maikel that is a great list of points. I won't boost, or you get more of what you don't want, but you might consider filing a fediverse idea..

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              Some of these can be mitigated by nurturing cultural habits.

              > 6. The worst one: people use other names instead to call them so filters don't work.

              This one in particular. Besides references to toxic people you see it too with folks saying Gaggle, GMAFIA, Farcebook, etc.

              Often these names are used in someone's "activism package", but using them is imho more performative to an existing in-group than that they constructively appeal to others and persuade them to join the good cause.

              I posted something related to this today. See CALM culture in..

              The acronym also litterally means that our social media culture becomes calmer, and there's better separation to where there's activism, and where the natural talk of the town.

              🫧 socialcoding.. (@smallcircles@social.coop)

              Whatever we think of #AI / #LLM mad hype cycle, we have to deal with its rushed and inhumane dumping of the technology into global human society. #CALMculture is a strategic approach to that allows activist voices to have the most impact in dealing with the dangers of disruptive technology introductions, and focuses beyond berating people and demanding sacrifice ("don't use, or else.."), to creating a process that helps win people over and work together on best outcomes and in direction of solutions. #CALM stands for Constructive activism-led movements, such as Social coding commons. Coding is social, and #SocialCoding the holistic approach to ensure that. Social coding commons evolves Social experience design or #SX, solution development for grassroots movements, supported by the #SocialWeb. In the thread below I copied a post to #Gleam's community with a suggestion to ponder about best outcomes from current and ongoing AI disruption, and deal with risks. https://discuss.coding.social/t/calm-culture-to-ensure-best-outcomes-to-ai-disruption/831

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              • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                @smallcircles Bustling ghost village ftw

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                #106

                @androcat aha, do you mean you find it hard to get information and connections around your interest areas?

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                • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                  @androcat aha, do you mean you find it hard to get information and connections around your interest areas?

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                  #107

                  @smallcircles No, I love ghosts, they have the coolest stories, and I don't have to deal with those pesky living people with their racism and their hate.
                  I also love villages, they're livable, they're walkable and the only real problem is being stuck out in the middle of nowhere, and that downside doesn't really apply online.
                  And bustling: Every place is full of people I want to hear from.

                  I don't have the time to hear from all of them, but that's just the FOMO speaking.

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                  • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                    Complete this sentence:

                    "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                    #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                    #108

                    @smallcircles New York subway, 02:00 AM.

                    *Disclaimer: I have never set foot in New York*

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                    • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                      @maikel that is a great list of points. I won't boost, or you get more of what you don't want, but you might consider filing a fediverse idea..

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                      Some of these can be mitigated by nurturing cultural habits.

                      > 6. The worst one: people use other names instead to call them so filters don't work.

                      This one in particular. Besides references to toxic people you see it too with folks saying Gaggle, GMAFIA, Farcebook, etc.

                      Often these names are used in someone's "activism package", but using them is imho more performative to an existing in-group than that they constructively appeal to others and persuade them to join the good cause.

                      I posted something related to this today. See CALM culture in..

                      The acronym also litterally means that our social media culture becomes calmer, and there's better separation to where there's activism, and where the natural talk of the town.

                      🫧 socialcoding.. (@smallcircles@social.coop)

                      Whatever we think of #AI / #LLM mad hype cycle, we have to deal with its rushed and inhumane dumping of the technology into global human society. #CALMculture is a strategic approach to that allows activist voices to have the most impact in dealing with the dangers of disruptive technology introductions, and focuses beyond berating people and demanding sacrifice ("don't use, or else.."), to creating a process that helps win people over and work together on best outcomes and in direction of solutions. #CALM stands for Constructive activism-led movements, such as Social coding commons. Coding is social, and #SocialCoding the holistic approach to ensure that. Social coding commons evolves Social experience design or #SX, solution development for grassroots movements, supported by the #SocialWeb. In the thread below I copied a post to #Gleam's community with a suggestion to ponder about best outcomes from current and ongoing AI disruption, and deal with risks. https://discuss.coding.social/t/calm-culture-to-ensure-best-outcomes-to-ai-disruption/831

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                      #109

                      @smallcircles feel free to boost.

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                      • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                        @maikel that is a great list of points. I won't boost, or you get more of what you don't want, but you might consider filing a fediverse idea..

                        Link Preview Image
                        fediverse-ideas

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                        Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)

                        Some of these can be mitigated by nurturing cultural habits.

                        > 6. The worst one: people use other names instead to call them so filters don't work.

                        This one in particular. Besides references to toxic people you see it too with folks saying Gaggle, GMAFIA, Farcebook, etc.

                        Often these names are used in someone's "activism package", but using them is imho more performative to an existing in-group than that they constructively appeal to others and persuade them to join the good cause.

                        I posted something related to this today. See CALM culture in..

                        The acronym also litterally means that our social media culture becomes calmer, and there's better separation to where there's activism, and where the natural talk of the town.

                        🫧 socialcoding.. (@smallcircles@social.coop)

                        Whatever we think of #AI / #LLM mad hype cycle, we have to deal with its rushed and inhumane dumping of the technology into global human society. #CALMculture is a strategic approach to that allows activist voices to have the most impact in dealing with the dangers of disruptive technology introductions, and focuses beyond berating people and demanding sacrifice ("don't use, or else.."), to creating a process that helps win people over and work together on best outcomes and in direction of solutions. #CALM stands for Constructive activism-led movements, such as Social coding commons. Coding is social, and #SocialCoding the holistic approach to ensure that. Social coding commons evolves Social experience design or #SX, solution development for grassroots movements, supported by the #SocialWeb. In the thread below I copied a post to #Gleam's community with a suggestion to ponder about best outcomes from current and ongoing AI disruption, and deal with risks. https://discuss.coding.social/t/calm-culture-to-ensure-best-outcomes-to-ai-disruption/831

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                        @smallcircles this all sound quite interesting.

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                        • maikel@vmst.ioM maikel@vmst.io

                          @smallcircles this all sound quite interesting.

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                          @maikel thank youl. I am fascinated by this intersection between social and technical, and the ability to collaborate at scale in grassroots environments to make that be more seamless.

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                          • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                            @maikel thank youl. I am fascinated by this intersection between social and technical, and the ability to collaborate at scale in grassroots environments to make that be more seamless.

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                            @smallcircles I think you and I have some common goals. I was doing this over Christmas, then stopped because I realised I didn't want to build one for just LGBTQ+ but any minorities (eg: AuDHD). I want any minority to be able to support their own while at the same time, share a "town square".

                            Non-negotiables
                            1. Federated and decentralised tech.
                            2. Opt-in network-wide discovery without centralisation of an index (this is the hard one).
                            3. Protection in places where we're beheaded for existing (strong e2e is a must and sharing data like absolute location coordinates is a definite NO).

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                              @smallcircles I think you and I have some common goals. I was doing this over Christmas, then stopped because I realised I didn't want to build one for just LGBTQ+ but any minorities (eg: AuDHD). I want any minority to be able to support their own while at the same time, share a "town square".

                              Non-negotiables
                              1. Federated and decentralised tech.
                              2. Opt-in network-wide discovery without centralisation of an index (this is the hard one).
                              3. Protection in places where we're beheaded for existing (strong e2e is a must and sharing data like absolute location coordinates is a definite NO).

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                              sparkr - The repository containing Sparkr, a federated Grindr alternative

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                              @smallcircles first it was about LGBTQ+, then I started to think about autistics, adhd, neurodivergencies, then about BAME.

                              Most of it, mimics algorithms I have already in my head about minimising the cost of a UK Nat Rep survey (e.g.: the more rare a participant is, the more expensive it becomes in e.g: Cint) for a previous job.

                              But each layer has to be carefully thought to be the most respectful and inclusive possible.

                              (part of why I'm preparing for a psychology degree to get some specialisation into Social Psychology).

                              The goal is, a dating / support app (the fact it is both things is key) where you can find people ....

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                              • maikel@vmst.ioM maikel@vmst.io

                                @smallcircles first it was about LGBTQ+, then I started to think about autistics, adhd, neurodivergencies, then about BAME.

                                Most of it, mimics algorithms I have already in my head about minimising the cost of a UK Nat Rep survey (e.g.: the more rare a participant is, the more expensive it becomes in e.g: Cint) for a previous job.

                                But each layer has to be carefully thought to be the most respectful and inclusive possible.

                                (part of why I'm preparing for a psychology degree to get some specialisation into Social Psychology).

                                The goal is, a dating / support app (the fact it is both things is key) where you can find people ....

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                                @smallcircles

                                ...like you, no matter how weird you consider yourself to either date or build a support network when you live in a place where that's absolutely necessary for survival.

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                                • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                                  @maikel that is a great list of points. I won't boost, or you get more of what you don't want, but you might consider filing a fediverse idea..

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                                  Some of these can be mitigated by nurturing cultural habits.

                                  > 6. The worst one: people use other names instead to call them so filters don't work.

                                  This one in particular. Besides references to toxic people you see it too with folks saying Gaggle, GMAFIA, Farcebook, etc.

                                  Often these names are used in someone's "activism package", but using them is imho more performative to an existing in-group than that they constructively appeal to others and persuade them to join the good cause.

                                  I posted something related to this today. See CALM culture in..

                                  The acronym also litterally means that our social media culture becomes calmer, and there's better separation to where there's activism, and where the natural talk of the town.

                                  🫧 socialcoding.. (@smallcircles@social.coop)

                                  Whatever we think of #AI / #LLM mad hype cycle, we have to deal with its rushed and inhumane dumping of the technology into global human society. #CALMculture is a strategic approach to that allows activist voices to have the most impact in dealing with the dangers of disruptive technology introductions, and focuses beyond berating people and demanding sacrifice ("don't use, or else.."), to creating a process that helps win people over and work together on best outcomes and in direction of solutions. #CALM stands for Constructive activism-led movements, such as Social coding commons. Coding is social, and #SocialCoding the holistic approach to ensure that. Social coding commons evolves Social experience design or #SX, solution development for grassroots movements, supported by the #SocialWeb. In the thread below I copied a post to #Gleam's community with a suggestion to ponder about best outcomes from current and ongoing AI disruption, and deal with risks. https://discuss.coding.social/t/calm-culture-to-ensure-best-outcomes-to-ai-disruption/831

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                                  @smallcircles @maikel I am especially annoyed by this practice of referring to companies and people you don't like by dysphemisms, as if saying their real name would summon them like Candyman. Thus "the orange site" instead of Hackernews, "the bird site" instead of Twitter, etc.

                                  I suspect this might have had some utility on Twitter or other corporate media sites, where bot armies would search for a name so they could brigade anyone who disparaged their favorite site or person. But here it's just annoying, and, as you point out, plays hell with filters.

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                                    @smallcircles @maikel I am especially annoyed by this practice of referring to companies and people you don't like by dysphemisms, as if saying their real name would summon them like Candyman. Thus "the orange site" instead of Hackernews, "the bird site" instead of Twitter, etc.

                                    I suspect this might have had some utility on Twitter or other corporate media sites, where bot armies would search for a name so they could brigade anyone who disparaged their favorite site or person. But here it's just annoying, and, as you point out, plays hell with filters.

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                                    @cholling agreed and I've seen an innumerable amount of toots requesting for this to stop from different people and nothing ever changing.

                                    @smallcircles

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                                    • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                                      Complete this sentence:

                                      "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                                      #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                                      @smallcircles Cozy neighborhood within a bustling city.

                                      Aside from a few Mastodon instances (two topical and one location-based), I haven't yet explored the rest, e.g. Lemmy, PeerTube, etc. even though I'm aware of their presence, which makes the Fediverse feel bigger than a village.

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                                      • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                                        Complete this sentence:

                                        "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                                        #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                                        @smallcircles
                                        A scattering of one-off housing built like the Hut on Fowl's Legs.

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                                        • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                                          Complete this sentence:

                                          "I experience #fediverse as a .."

                                          #Poll #AskFedi #Microblogging #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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                                          @smallcircles I'd probably say a city, but more wide than dense, and a bit like Morrowind's map if you have played it. In the beginning, all of it looks empty and locations become visible when you discover them. You'll find more and more people, interesting posts etc. Though if you have niche interests and those who share them (if they exist) haven't moved to the fediverse yet, you might still be talking to the void a lot.

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