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  3. today I learned that we (as a civilization) now can put 16 silicon flash dice into a single 700µm microSD card on a commercial scale https://www.ose.com.tw/en/ic-services/memory-product-package/microsdsd

today I learned that we (as a civilization) now can put 16 silicon flash dice into a single 700µm microSD card on a commercial scale https://www.ose.com.tw/en/ic-services/memory-product-package/microsdsd

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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    today I learned that we (as a civilization) now can put 16 silicon flash dice into a single 700µm microSD card on a commercial scale https://www.ose.com.tw/en/ic-services/memory-product-package/microsdsd

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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      today I learned that we (as a civilization) now can put 16 silicon flash dice into a single 700µm microSD card on a commercial scale https://www.ose.com.tw/en/ic-services/memory-product-package/microsdsd

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      if you think that the precariously balanced tower of flash above is an inaccurate representation of what's going on, i can reassure you that
      (a) this is exactly how it looks like, and
      (b) SK Hynix is up to 24 layers already (not sure in what application)

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        today I learned that we (as a civilization) now can put 16 silicon flash dice into a single 700µm microSD card on a commercial scale https://www.ose.com.tw/en/ic-services/memory-product-package/microsdsd

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        kirtai@tech.lgbtK This user is from outside of this forum
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        @whitequark
        Is this the succulent flesh of which you spoke?

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          if you think that the precariously balanced tower of flash above is an inaccurate representation of what's going on, i can reassure you that
          (a) this is exactly how it looks like, and
          (b) SK Hynix is up to 24 layers already (not sure in what application)

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          Semiconductor Back-end Process 4: Packages, Part 2

          This article will explore packaging technologies that combine multiple packages and components within a single product.

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          samantazfox@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @whitequark That's fascinating O.O

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            today I learned that we (as a civilization) now can put 16 silicon flash dice into a single 700µm microSD card on a commercial scale https://www.ose.com.tw/en/ic-services/memory-product-package/microsdsd

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            @whitequark interesting to think about the order of operations. How many dies do they stack before the first wire bonding pass. 4? 5? Do they trust placing a die right beside the freshly made wire bonds?

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              if you think that the precariously balanced tower of flash above is an inaccurate representation of what's going on, i can reassure you that
              (a) this is exactly how it looks like, and
              (b) SK Hynix is up to 24 layers already (not sure in what application)

              Link Preview Image
              Semiconductor Back-end Process 4: Packages, Part 2

              This article will explore packaging technologies that combine multiple packages and components within a single product.

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              SK hynix Newsroom - (news.skhynix.com)

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              updn@chaos.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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              @whitequark I did look into 3D architectures in uni, but still, wtf, especially the left picture, that's so uncanny...

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                if you think that the precariously balanced tower of flash above is an inaccurate representation of what's going on, i can reassure you that
                (a) this is exactly how it looks like, and
                (b) SK Hynix is up to 24 layers already (not sure in what application)

                Link Preview Image
                Semiconductor Back-end Process 4: Packages, Part 2

                This article will explore packaging technologies that combine multiple packages and components within a single product.

                favicon

                SK hynix Newsroom - (news.skhynix.com)

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                @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems kioxia does up to 32 high stacks (for larger SSDs but still) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivLvsTnp9fI

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  today I learned that we (as a civilization) now can put 16 silicon flash dice into a single 700µm microSD card on a commercial scale https://www.ose.com.tw/en/ic-services/memory-product-package/microsdsd

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                  r@glauca.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @whitequark afaik this process also involves very carefully grinding the back side of silicon wafers (the side which doesn't have the transistors) in order to make all the dies as thin as possible

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    if you think that the precariously balanced tower of flash above is an inaccurate representation of what's going on, i can reassure you that
                    (a) this is exactly how it looks like, and
                    (b) SK Hynix is up to 24 layers already (not sure in what application)

                    Link Preview Image
                    Semiconductor Back-end Process 4: Packages, Part 2

                    This article will explore packaging technologies that combine multiple packages and components within a single product.

                    favicon

                    SK hynix Newsroom - (news.skhynix.com)

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                    amy@sk.girlthi.ngA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems the fact i can go to tesco and purchase this marvel of engineering will never not be extremely funny to me

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      if you think that the precariously balanced tower of flash above is an inaccurate representation of what's going on, i can reassure you that
                      (a) this is exactly how it looks like, and
                      (b) SK Hynix is up to 24 layers already (not sure in what application)

                      Link Preview Image
                      Semiconductor Back-end Process 4: Packages, Part 2

                      This article will explore packaging technologies that combine multiple packages and components within a single product.

                      favicon

                      SK hynix Newsroom - (news.skhynix.com)

                      Link Preview Image
                      confusomu@twoot.siteC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @whitequark fascinating to see microscope images of die stacks

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                      • amy@sk.girlthi.ngA amy@sk.girlthi.ng

                        @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems the fact i can go to tesco and purchase this marvel of engineering will never not be extremely funny to me

                        jernej__s@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @amy @whitequark At some point I bought a 1TB microSD card and completely forgot about it – until I found it a few days ago under the junk on my desk.

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                        • jernej__s@infosec.exchangeJ jernej__s@infosec.exchange

                          @amy @whitequark At some point I bought a 1TB microSD card and completely forgot about it – until I found it a few days ago under the junk on my desk.

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                          @jernej__s @amy I had the same experience (I plugged it into my Steam Deck)

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                          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                            @jernej__s @amy I had the same experience (I plugged it into my Steam Deck)

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                            @whitequark @amy Hey, I just found another 1TB microSD card I forgot about!

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                            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                              today I learned that we (as a civilization) now can put 16 silicon flash dice into a single 700µm microSD card on a commercial scale https://www.ose.com.tw/en/ic-services/memory-product-package/microsdsd

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                              @whitequark and all that just to create a storage format that's too small for human hands to handle.

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                              • cm@chaos.socialC cm@chaos.social

                                @whitequark and all that just to create a storage format that's too small for human hands to handle.

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                                @cm shhhhh... if you say that too loudly they'll make a nanoSD card

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                                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                  @cm shhhhh... if you say that too loudly they'll make a nanoSD card

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                                  @whitequark /me deletes previous toot

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                                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                    if you think that the precariously balanced tower of flash above is an inaccurate representation of what's going on, i can reassure you that
                                    (a) this is exactly how it looks like, and
                                    (b) SK Hynix is up to 24 layers already (not sure in what application)

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Semiconductor Back-end Process 4: Packages, Part 2

                                    This article will explore packaging technologies that combine multiple packages and components within a single product.

                                    favicon

                                    SK hynix Newsroom - (news.skhynix.com)

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                                    @whitequark
                                    When are people going to be buying old cards on eBay to scavenge the gold wire?

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                                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                      today I learned that we (as a civilization) now can put 16 silicon flash dice into a single 700µm microSD card on a commercial scale https://www.ose.com.tw/en/ic-services/memory-product-package/microsdsd

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                                      @whitequark .7mm ea * 16 = 11.6mm thick not inc. substrate........ thats a beefy card.?

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                                      • ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchangeR ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchange

                                        @whitequark .7mm ea * 16 = 11.6mm thick not inc. substrate........ thats a beefy card.?

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                                        @whitequark oh wait, yea, its too early for me to be making social media posts, going to go get coffee. bbl.

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                                        • realgene@hachyderm.ioR realgene@hachyderm.io

                                          @whitequark
                                          When are people going to be buying old cards on eBay to scavenge the gold wire?

                                          whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @RealGene they do buy ewaste for this already

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