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  • V vol4life8657@tweesecake.social

    @MariahL @NicksWorld @Kingslayer I agree with that. When I had my guide dog, the only way I can describe it is liberating. Once you learn to put your trust in the dog, and you both learn to work as a team, everything just goes way through the roof. And I agree on the dog making one more approachable. Everything just goes up.

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    lynn@mastodon.stickbear.me
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    @vol4life8657 @MariahL @NicksWorld @Kingslayer I've been reading this thread, and perhaps shouldn't break in--but those of us who have been part of a great person/guide dog team no there's absolutely nothing in this world that is more liberating, and it's something I never felt as a cane user. I think the reason it is so liberating is that dog and handler are working together, and when you know one another well, and trust one another, it's like knowing you can go almost anywhere and know you'll get through it together. Yes, you both need proper skills so you can direct your dog, but with the right skills and relationship, that partnership is beyond anything I've ever experienced.

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    • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

      Controversial opinion. I don't want a service dog purely because I don't want to deal with the bullshit of the human race. A cane at least is less of a problem, to most people, its just a stick. Nobody has a problem with a stick. #Blind

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      @NicksWorld It's good to know what you want. Having a dog is not for everyone.

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      • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

        @MariahL @Kingslayer Yeah, you have a point.

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        @NicksWorld @MariahL @Kingslayer I do know of cases where uber drivers saw the blind person with their cane and drove away. It still happens because ableism but you are right it is less than what someone with a dog gets.

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        • T techsinger@tweesecake.social

          @NicksWorld @MariahL @Kingslayer I don't recall recommending staying in your house 🙂 Frankly, I don't even recommend considering the extra work when you're doing stuff, though I know some people would disagree. What I do myself is to know that's a factor for most people. I can't pretend it's not.

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          bruce@allovertheplace.ca
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          @techsinger @NicksWorld @MariahL @Kingslayer The thing I do recommend is to pay forward. If you find a lot of people going out of their way, being inconvenienced, making exceptions, paying for gas, etc., etc., for you, make it a point of helping the next person who could use a hand up. You don't need to grovel with gratitude, just quietly be grateful by giving to someone else what someone else has given you, albeit maybe in a different form.

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          • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

            @Kingslayer @MariahL @vol4life8657 That's until you're paying huge cash for vet bills and food.

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            @NicksWorld @Kingslayer @MariahL @vol4life8657 It's all about your priorities and nobody has the same priorities as the next person. So if you dislike confrontation, and you don't want to spend the money then absolutely you should stick with a cane. I am going to have a different scent of priorities because I also have a different set of disabilities and a different life experience. So for me, it is worth it 1000 times over.

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            • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

              @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer When I go out, I don't even consider the amount of work I make people do because I go out and have fun. Yes, I know I make people do theings they wouldn't normally do but at the end of the day, I'm not just gonna stay in my house to make other people ffeel comfortable. At that point, you might as well put me in a mental hospital.

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              vol4life8657@tweesecake.social
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              @NicksWorld @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer Nick your perspective is so inconsiderate of other people's perspectives it's quite disheartening.

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              • pawpower@beige.partyP pawpower@beige.party

                @NicksWorld @Kingslayer @MariahL @vol4life8657 It's all about your priorities and nobody has the same priorities as the next person. So if you dislike confrontation, and you don't want to spend the money then absolutely you should stick with a cane. I am going to have a different scent of priorities because I also have a different set of disabilities and a different life experience. So for me, it is worth it 1000 times over.

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                mariahl@dragonscave.space
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                @pawpower @NicksWorld @Kingslayer @vol4life8657 all of this. I just couldn't find a way to say it.

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                • V vol4life8657@tweesecake.social

                  @NicksWorld @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer Nick your perspective is so inconsiderate of other people's perspectives it's quite disheartening.

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                  nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                  @vol4life8657 @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer How is it inconsiderate? I just go into public and am a regular person.

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                  • pawpower@beige.partyP pawpower@beige.party

                    @NicksWorld @Kingslayer @MariahL @vol4life8657 It's all about your priorities and nobody has the same priorities as the next person. So if you dislike confrontation, and you don't want to spend the money then absolutely you should stick with a cane. I am going to have a different scent of priorities because I also have a different set of disabilities and a different life experience. So for me, it is worth it 1000 times over.

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                    mariahl@dragonscave.space
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                    @pawpower @NicksWorld @Kingslayer @vol4life8657 My brain was just not 100 percent alive.

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                    • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

                      @vol4life8657 @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer How is it inconsiderate? I just go into public and am a regular person.

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                      vol4life8657@tweesecake.social
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                      @NicksWorld @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer It's how you state things, you come across as this is my way or the high way and if people don't like then screw them.

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                      • V vol4life8657@tweesecake.social

                        @NicksWorld @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer It's how you state things, you come across as this is my way or the high way and if people don't like then screw them.

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                        nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                        @vol4life8657 @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer I at least call ahead before I go to places when I know I need service. That way they can't say we weren't prepared when they totally were.

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                        • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

                          @vol4life8657 @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer I at least call ahead before I go to places when I know I need service. That way they can't say we weren't prepared when they totally were.

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                          vol4life8657@tweesecake.social
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                          @NicksWorld @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer And that is the appropriate thing to do.

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                          • V vol4life8657@tweesecake.social

                            @NicksWorld @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer And that is the appropriate thing to do.

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                            nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                            @vol4life8657 @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer It's more to cover my ass mostly.

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                            • M mariahl@dragonscave.space

                              @NicksWorld @Kingslayer The white cane isn't a one size fits all thing, though. It's not as simple as that, Nick. I've had a guide dog and even though I had plenty of problems, the way we moved was so freeing. With a cane when you encounter an obsticle the cane hits it. A dog will either show you what the obsticle is or just take you around it. Being able to just move with that sort of fuidity was amazing. I honestly hate my cane sometimes. I don't have the speed of movement that I used to have, but also a dog can break the ice in social situations. The white cane has a lot of unspoken stigmas attached to it. When I worked at a summer camp for kids with disabilities back in 2017 I got so much more from people because of my dog. My friend who was a cane user struggled in social situations where I did not. Sure I can chalk half of his struggles to his social skills not being the best, but really, it was because I had a dog and we both knew it.

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                              hallen@tweesecake.social
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                              @MariahL @NicksWorld @Kingslayer Just curious, what's wrong with the cane hitting the obstical? I've been a cane user all my life and yes, it can hit things, or sometimes people, but that's what it's supposed to do.

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                              • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

                                @vol4life8657 @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer It's more to cover my ass mostly.

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                                @NicksWorld @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer But it's also the proper thing to do.

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                                • V vol4life8657@tweesecake.social

                                  @NicksWorld @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer But it's also the proper thing to do.

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                                  nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                                  @vol4life8657 @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer It certainly is, and has never caused me problems.

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                                  • H hallen@tweesecake.social

                                    @MariahL @NicksWorld @Kingslayer Just curious, what's wrong with the cane hitting the obstical? I've been a cane user all my life and yes, it can hit things, or sometimes people, but that's what it's supposed to do.

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                                    mariahl@dragonscave.space
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                                    @hallen @NicksWorld @Kingslayer There's nothing wrong with it, but it can slow down travel. It's not a problem, it's just a thing

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                                    • pawpower@beige.partyP pawpower@beige.party

                                      @NicksWorld @Kingslayer @MariahL @vol4life8657 It's all about your priorities and nobody has the same priorities as the next person. So if you dislike confrontation, and you don't want to spend the money then absolutely you should stick with a cane. I am going to have a different scent of priorities because I also have a different set of disabilities and a different life experience. So for me, it is worth it 1000 times over.

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                                      kingslayer@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                                      @pawpower @NicksWorld @MariahL @vol4life8657 Oh yeah 100%. No disrespect was meant to guide dog users. Guide dogs and their handlers are truely awesome. I was just contributing my personal thoughts on the matter. Over all though I think people should just do whatever makes them feel the most safe and comfortable. 🙂

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                                      • K kingslayer@mastodon.stickbear.me

                                        @pawpower @NicksWorld @MariahL @vol4life8657 Oh yeah 100%. No disrespect was meant to guide dog users. Guide dogs and their handlers are truely awesome. I was just contributing my personal thoughts on the matter. Over all though I think people should just do whatever makes them feel the most safe and comfortable. 🙂

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                                        @Kingslayer @NicksWorld @MariahL @vol4life8657 Oh no, I didn't think you meant any disrespect at all. I was just explaining to Nick about the priorities that people have and how different people will choose differently. I honestly wish fewer people would work with Guide dogs mostly because I think a lot of people do it for very wrong reasons and they don't actually realize how much work and effort goes into this relationship.

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                                        • K kingslayer@mastodon.stickbear.me

                                          @pawpower @NicksWorld @MariahL @vol4life8657 Oh yeah 100%. No disrespect was meant to guide dog users. Guide dogs and their handlers are truely awesome. I was just contributing my personal thoughts on the matter. Over all though I think people should just do whatever makes them feel the most safe and comfortable. 🙂

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                                          @Kingslayer @vol4life8657 @MariahL @NicksWorld @pawpower For me, I've met a few people who, well, I don't think they should have a guide dog. They were't well groomed, one of them that just came out of training decided to sniff my butt. The dog, not the person. Anyway I know I wouldn't be good with a dog. A dog needs to move around and go places. I go to work, mainly sit at a desk, and go home. That ain't enough movement to keep a dog happy and trained.

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