Hrmm due to filling up my database allocation I have had to increase my Masto

[dtl@8bitorbust.info]

@bloor I'm in a similar position.
I don't want to host at home or on my VPS, as I'm assuming it's when, not if that there is a widely used vulnerability. Keeping it away from anything else I care about is important.
I don't know if it would be much cheaper.

[bloor@bloor.tw]

@dtl I was kinda thinking run it at home tbh. I have fairly stable power and gigabit internet. And real IPv4/6 etc.

[dtl@8bitorbust.info]

@bloor I don't have the networking chops to keep it sufficiently away from anything else on the Lan.

[bloor@bloor.tw]

@dtl I'd probably put it on a a separate "hosting block" tbh.

[dtl@8bitorbust.info]

@bloor I could probably magic up a VLAN, but I don't know if that's enough.

[ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.uk]

@bloor @eigen does that also include the cached media?

[bloor@bloor.tw]

@ben @eigen media is separate unfortunately

[ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk]

@bloor @dtl

FWIW, I quite happily run it at home on a NUC.

Although I've got gigabit internet, it turns out it'd probably have been fine on ADSL too

I have moved media to object storage though, which helps a lot

[bloor@bloor.tw]

@ben @dtl I have a NUC-like machine (N100 type thing) which I was running HA on before I moved. I guess I could run a separate VM on there for hosting a Masto instance.

[wishy@tooter.wishy.co.uk]

@bloor @ben @dtl masto doesn't need a huge amount of power. My instance has been hanging off one of your lines for a good few years now.

The protocol is pretty tolerant to a bit of downtime now and then

[bloor@bloor.tw]

@wishy @ben @dtl my main mental obstacle is the “getting it working” and then the “keeping it working”

[ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk]

@bloor @wishy @dtl Admittedly I run it in docker so don't have to worry about deps, But I've found it far lower maintenance than I was expecting.

The getting it going bit was a bit more effort though

[bloor@bloor.tw]

@ben @wishy @dtl see .. I have never used docker and have no idea how to use it or even really what it’s for…

[wishy@tooter.wishy.co.uk]

@bloor @ben @dtl you'd need to learn about 5 commands to manage the service through docker. It's been remarkably pain free tbh

[neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk]

@bloor @ben @wishy @dtl

I am self-hosted, on an N100 Intel NUC.

I am not using docker.

I do not do anything fancy to keep it going (and it gets a fair workout :)).

It is not the most trivial installation, but not is it too bad.

[steve@mastodon.nexusuk.org]

@bloor @ben @wishy @dtl I believe Docker is for a similar purpose to AutoTools. I.e. to make simple stuff go wrong in complex un-debuggable ways.

[neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk]

@bloor @ben @wishy @dtl

I am more than happy to go through it with you remotely at some point, should you wish!

[ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk]

@bloor @wishy @dtl

fair. Easiest way to think of it is a small prebuilt vm image but without a kernel and (usually) designed to run a single app.

Running a docker container is generally easy, but troubleshooting docker issues can be a pain (though rarely needed IME), so I guess a native install might end up being less burden if you're not already doing that anyway

[bloor@bloor.tw]

@neil @ben @wishy @dtl thank you, I may very well take you up on that, I think I need to try and get my “basic requirements” in order first though, perhaps a machine or a virtual machine, nice and clean and ready

[bloor@bloor.tw]

@ben @wishy @dtl why not just use a VM?