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Hrmm due to filling up my database allocation I have had to increase my Masto

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  • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

    Hrmm due to filling up my database allocation I have had to increase my Masto.Host subscription to $29 a month. Which for what it is is fine value. But is still a fair bit more than I ever ment to be paying for a social media thingy. I'm back to pondering going self-hosted.

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    @bloor FWIW, my instance sits happily on a VPS for ~£4.50 a month and has quite a bit of spare capacity (I think it's got 200G or so of disk)

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    • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

      Hrmm due to filling up my database allocation I have had to increase my Masto.Host subscription to $29 a month. Which for what it is is fine value. But is still a fair bit more than I ever ment to be paying for a social media thingy. I'm back to pondering going self-hosted.

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      @bloor I'm in a similar position.
      I don't want to host at home or on my VPS, as I'm assuming it's when, not if that there is a widely used vulnerability. Keeping it away from anything else I care about is important.
      I don't know if it would be much cheaper.

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      • dtl@8bitorbust.infoD dtl@8bitorbust.info

        @bloor I'm in a similar position.
        I don't want to host at home or on my VPS, as I'm assuming it's when, not if that there is a widely used vulnerability. Keeping it away from anything else I care about is important.
        I don't know if it would be much cheaper.

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        @dtl I was kinda thinking run it at home tbh. I have fairly stable power and gigabit internet. And real IPv4/6 etc.

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        • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

          @dtl I was kinda thinking run it at home tbh. I have fairly stable power and gigabit internet. And real IPv4/6 etc.

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          @bloor I don't have the networking chops to keep it sufficiently away from anything else on the Lan.

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          • dtl@8bitorbust.infoD dtl@8bitorbust.info

            @bloor I don't have the networking chops to keep it sufficiently away from anything else on the Lan.

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            @dtl I'd probably put it on a a separate "hosting block" tbh.

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            • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

              @dtl I'd probably put it on a a separate "hosting block" tbh.

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              @bloor I could probably magic up a VLAN, but I don't know if that's enough.

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              • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                @eigen Masto.Host control panel says 10GB. Although the dump/backup is far less.

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                @bloor @eigen does that also include the cached media?

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                • ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.ukB ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.uk

                  @bloor @eigen does that also include the cached media?

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                  @ben @eigen media is separate unfortunately

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                  • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                    @dtl I was kinda thinking run it at home tbh. I have fairly stable power and gigabit internet. And real IPv4/6 etc.

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                    @bloor @dtl

                    FWIW, I quite happily run it at home on a NUC.

                    Although I've got gigabit internet, it turns out it'd probably have been fine on ADSL too

                    I have moved media to object storage though, which helps a lot

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                    • ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk

                      @bloor @dtl

                      FWIW, I quite happily run it at home on a NUC.

                      Although I've got gigabit internet, it turns out it'd probably have been fine on ADSL too

                      I have moved media to object storage though, which helps a lot

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                      @ben @dtl I have a NUC-like machine (N100 type thing) which I was running HA on before I moved. I guess I could run a separate VM on there for hosting a Masto instance.

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                      • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                        @ben @dtl I have a NUC-like machine (N100 type thing) which I was running HA on before I moved. I guess I could run a separate VM on there for hosting a Masto instance.

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                        @bloor @ben @dtl masto doesn't need a huge amount of power. My instance has been hanging off one of your lines for a good few years now.

                        The protocol is pretty tolerant to a bit of downtime now and then

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                        • wishy@tooter.wishy.co.ukW wishy@tooter.wishy.co.uk

                          @bloor @ben @dtl masto doesn't need a huge amount of power. My instance has been hanging off one of your lines for a good few years now.

                          The protocol is pretty tolerant to a bit of downtime now and then

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                          @wishy @ben @dtl my main mental obstacle is the “getting it working” and then the “keeping it working”

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                          • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                            @wishy @ben @dtl my main mental obstacle is the “getting it working” and then the “keeping it working”

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                            @bloor @wishy @dtl Admittedly I run it in docker so don't have to worry about deps, But I've found it far lower maintenance than I was expecting.

                            The getting it going bit was a bit more effort though

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                            • ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk

                              @bloor @wishy @dtl Admittedly I run it in docker so don't have to worry about deps, But I've found it far lower maintenance than I was expecting.

                              The getting it going bit was a bit more effort though

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                              @ben @wishy @dtl see .. I have never used docker and have no idea how to use it or even really what it’s for…

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                                @ben @wishy @dtl see .. I have never used docker and have no idea how to use it or even really what it’s for…

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                                @bloor @ben @dtl you'd need to learn about 5 commands to manage the service through docker. It's been remarkably pain free tbh

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                                • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                                  @ben @wishy @dtl see .. I have never used docker and have no idea how to use it or even really what it’s for…

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                                  @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl

                                  I am self-hosted, on an N100 Intel NUC.

                                  I am not using docker.

                                  I do not do anything fancy to keep it going (and it gets a fair workout :)).

                                  It is not the most trivial installation, but not is it too bad.

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                                  • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                                    @ben @wishy @dtl see .. I have never used docker and have no idea how to use it or even really what it’s for…

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                                    @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl I believe Docker is for a similar purpose to AutoTools. I.e. to make simple stuff go wrong in complex un-debuggable ways. 🙂

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                                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                      @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl

                                      I am self-hosted, on an N100 Intel NUC.

                                      I am not using docker.

                                      I do not do anything fancy to keep it going (and it gets a fair workout :)).

                                      It is not the most trivial installation, but not is it too bad.

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                                      @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl

                                      I am more than happy to go through it with you remotely at some point, should you wish!

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                                      • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                                        @ben @wishy @dtl see .. I have never used docker and have no idea how to use it or even really what it’s for…

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                                        @bloor @wishy @dtl

                                        fair. Easiest way to think of it is a small prebuilt vm image but without a kernel and (usually) designed to run a single app.

                                        Running a docker container is generally easy, but troubleshooting docker issues can be a pain (though rarely needed IME), so I guess a native install might end up being less burden if you're not already doing that anyway

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                                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                          @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl

                                          I am more than happy to go through it with you remotely at some point, should you wish!

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                                          @neil @ben @wishy @dtl thank you, I may very well take you up on that, I think I need to try and get my “basic requirements” in order first though, perhaps a machine or a virtual machine, nice and clean and ready

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