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  3. 1/ There has never been a more concentrated distillation of my teaching than this lesson: Algos, Bias, Due Process, & You.

1/ There has never been a more concentrated distillation of my teaching than this lesson: Algos, Bias, Due Process, & You.

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  • colarusso@mastodon.socialC colarusso@mastodon.social

    8/ I told them that for our first exercise they would all be using an AI assistant I built to review citations. After they had a chance to use it we would have a class discussion. I suggested they hold the following question in their head, “What makes something a good decision assistant?“

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    @Colarusso Can you describe the AI citation tool? I'm unclear what it is supposed to do and how this part of the exercise worked.

    Were they competing with each other for speed in creating citations and that was creating a dark pattern?

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    • d_j_nathanson@esq.socialD d_j_nathanson@esq.social

      @Colarusso Can you describe the AI citation tool? I'm unclear what it is supposed to do and how this part of the exercise worked.

      Were they competing with each other for speed in creating citations and that was creating a dark pattern?

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      @D_J_Nathanson yes, they were competing against each other, but the pacing buddy wasn't one of their peers. It was just a script that made it look like someone was just a head of them. All the "AI" suggested flags were per-determined. So nothing they did would effect the "AI" but of course, how carefully they read the materials effected their own performance.

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      • colarusso@mastodon.socialC colarusso@mastodon.social

        14/ Since we had just made use of a tool that purported to make predictions with some level of confidence, I suggested we might want to look more into what such tools are really telling us. So, I asked them the following.

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        @Colarusso ok, but: what’s the correct answer?

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        • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

          @Colarusso ok, but: what’s the correct answer?

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          @blogdiva D, there isn't enough information/no way to know given just the info in the question. You need to know how prevalent the thing you're testing for is before you can venture a guess. See e.g., https://bail-risk-simulator-50382557550.us-west1.run.app/

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          • colarusso@mastodon.socialC colarusso@mastodon.social

            1/ There has never been a more concentrated distillation of my teaching than this lesson: Algos, Bias, Due Process, & You. It is the apotheosis of what I do. I very much hope you enjoy it, share it, and make bits of it your own. https://suffolklitlab.org/algos-bias-due-process-you/

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            @Colarusso

            I agree, the design and work you put into putting this together is incredible! Thanks so much for sharing.

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            • colarusso@mastodon.socialC colarusso@mastodon.social

              @blogdiva D, there isn't enough information/no way to know given just the info in the question. You need to know how prevalent the thing you're testing for is before you can venture a guess. See e.g., https://bail-risk-simulator-50382557550.us-west1.run.app/

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              @Colarusso have already bookmarked everything for studying. thank you!

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                @Colarusso have already bookmarked everything for studying. thank you!

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                @blogdiva if you want just one bookmark, this blog post puts it all in one place (and even adds a bit) https://suffolklitlab.org/algos-bias-due-process-you/

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                • stepheneb@ruby.socialS stepheneb@ruby.social

                  @Colarusso

                  I agree, the design and work you put into putting this together is incredible! Thanks so much for sharing.

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                  @stepheneb thank you. It was almost as much work as it was fun to put together. A bunch of things just clicked.

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                  • colarusso@mastodon.socialC colarusso@mastodon.social

                    18/ It (https://fairness-simulator-the-toilet-seat-dilemma-50382557550.us-west1.run.app/) lets you simulate what happens when folks following different rules share a toilet. It assumes 2 populations, "sitters" & "standers" (folks who sometimes stand). It lets you see how different behavior effects 2 costs:

                    (1) the cost of having to change the seat's position before you use the toilet; and

                    (2) the cost of having to clean the seat if the last person failed to raise the seat when really they should have.

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                    @Colarusso
                    Having both the lid and the seat always down levels the cost for sitters and standers AND is more hygienic

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                      33/End

                      Thank you for making it all the way to the end. I'm pretty sure this is the longest thread I've ever written. If you came in halfway through & thought, "this should have been a blog post," I agree, and here it is: https://suffolklitlab.org/algos-bias-due-process-you/

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                      @Colarusso
                      Oh, man! You are a rock star of a prof. Wow!

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                        @Colarusso
                        Oh, man! You are a rock star of a prof. Wow!

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                        @JoeStewart you are very kind. Thank you.

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                        • colarusso@mastodon.socialC colarusso@mastodon.social

                          @blogdiva D, there isn't enough information/no way to know given just the info in the question. You need to know how prevalent the thing you're testing for is before you can venture a guess. See e.g., https://bail-risk-simulator-50382557550.us-west1.run.app/

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                          @Colarusso @blogdiva I figured D because I didn't even know if the 10% inaccuracy tended to be false negatives or false positives.

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                          • colarusso@mastodon.socialC colarusso@mastodon.social

                            24/ Then I told them that there actually was a federal law enforcement agency actively using facial recognition out in the real world called ICE, and I asked what safeguards folks thought they had in place… Things got a bit quiet, and I shared the following reporting. https://www.404media.co/ices-facial-recognition-app-misidentified-a-woman-twice/

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                            @Colarusso Excellent thread! Thanks!

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