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  3. Der Spiegel's lead story, an interview with Robert Kagan: "We are witnessing how an entire country is transforming into a dictatorship almost without resistance."Bitte, Der Spiegel, share the English version.

Der Spiegel's lead story, an interview with Robert Kagan: "We are witnessing how an entire country is transforming into a dictatorship almost without resistance."Bitte, Der Spiegel, share the English version.

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  • jeffjarvis@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Der Spiegel's lead story, an interview with Robert Kagan: "We are witnessing how an entire country is transforming into a dictatorship almost without resistance."
    Bitte, Der Spiegel, share the English version. Americans need to read it.
    https://www.spiegel.de/geschichte/us-historiker-robert-kagan-wir-erleben-jetzt-wie-sich-ein-ganzes-land-fast-widerstandslos-in-eine-diktatur-verwandelt-a-2e284e4d-68de-497a-a43d-ba8fea322951

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    • jeffjarvis@mastodon.socialJ jeffjarvis@mastodon.social

      Der Spiegel's lead story, an interview with Robert Kagan: "We are witnessing how an entire country is transforming into a dictatorship almost without resistance."
      Bitte, Der Spiegel, share the English version. Americans need to read it.
      https://www.spiegel.de/geschichte/us-historiker-robert-kagan-wir-erleben-jetzt-wie-sich-ein-ganzes-land-fast-widerstandslos-in-eine-diktatur-verwandelt-a-2e284e4d-68de-497a-a43d-ba8fea322951

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      @jeffjarvis I am not finding the english version.

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      • jeffjarvis@mastodon.socialJ jeffjarvis@mastodon.social

        Der Spiegel's lead story, an interview with Robert Kagan: "We are witnessing how an entire country is transforming into a dictatorship almost without resistance."
        Bitte, Der Spiegel, share the English version. Americans need to read it.
        https://www.spiegel.de/geschichte/us-historiker-robert-kagan-wir-erleben-jetzt-wie-sich-ein-ganzes-land-fast-widerstandslos-in-eine-diktatur-verwandelt-a-2e284e4d-68de-497a-a43d-ba8fea322951

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        @jeffjarvis for those who don’t mess with paywalls. (Edited: removed link due to comment)

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        • dulcemaria@toot.communityD dulcemaria@toot.community

          @jeffjarvis for those who don’t mess with paywalls. (Edited: removed link due to comment)

          bredow@troet.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
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          @DulceMaria @jeffjarvis what you call “ messing with paywalls” is what honest people pay for our independent and investigative journalism. What has to be paid for so that we can do our work: in this case, my interview with Robert Kagan. DER SPIEGEL, the New York Times, the Atlantic - we will all die if people don’t pay for our work.

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            @DulceMaria @jeffjarvis what you call “ messing with paywalls” is what honest people pay for our independent and investigative journalism. What has to be paid for so that we can do our work: in this case, my interview with Robert Kagan. DER SPIEGEL, the New York Times, the Atlantic - we will all die if people don’t pay for our work.

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            @bredow @jeffjarvis Rafaela, thank you for your perspective. I will remove the link I posted. I don’t want you to die before your time.

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            • jd@todon.euJ jd@todon.eu

              @jeffjarvis I am not finding the english version.

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              @jd @jeffjarvis my browser will translate to English if I ask it to do this - maybe yours will also?

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              • dulcemaria@toot.communityD dulcemaria@toot.community

                @jd @jeffjarvis my browser will translate to English if I ask it to do this - maybe yours will also?

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                @DulceMaria @jeffjarvis yes, I can (and did) that - but Jeff sounded as if there was an official Der Spiegel english version.

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                • jd@todon.euJ jd@todon.eu

                  @DulceMaria @jeffjarvis yes, I can (and did) that - but Jeff sounded as if there was an official Der Spiegel english version.

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                  @jd @jeffjarvis ah, makes sense, apologies I missed that bit

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                  • dulcemaria@toot.communityD dulcemaria@toot.community

                    @bredow @jeffjarvis Rafaela, thank you for your perspective. I will remove the link I posted. I don’t want you to die before your time.

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                    @DulceMaria @jeffjarvis thank you! You did something good for yourself, too, because removing the link saved you from legal trouble…

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                    • jeffjarvis@mastodon.socialJ jeffjarvis@mastodon.social

                      Der Spiegel's lead story, an interview with Robert Kagan: "We are witnessing how an entire country is transforming into a dictatorship almost without resistance."
                      Bitte, Der Spiegel, share the English version. Americans need to read it.
                      https://www.spiegel.de/geschichte/us-historiker-robert-kagan-wir-erleben-jetzt-wie-sich-ein-ganzes-land-fast-widerstandslos-in-eine-diktatur-verwandelt-a-2e284e4d-68de-497a-a43d-ba8fea322951

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                      @jeffjarvis dear Jeff, thanks for posting this, I’ll see what I can do to get the interview on SPIEGEL international.

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                      • bredow@troet.cafeB bredow@troet.cafe

                        @DulceMaria @jeffjarvis what you call “ messing with paywalls” is what honest people pay for our independent and investigative journalism. What has to be paid for so that we can do our work: in this case, my interview with Robert Kagan. DER SPIEGEL, the New York Times, the Atlantic - we will all die if people don’t pay for our work.

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                        @bredow
                        yeah i will - just tell the smart marketing people to let customers buy single articles for a dollar or euro instead of forcing them into expensive and longterm subscriptions and it will work.

                        potential customers keep requesting it but publishers keep ignoring it.

                        that is also a hugely better price per word than any subscription.

                        @DulceMaria @jeffjarvis

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                        • jeffjarvis@mastodon.socialJ jeffjarvis@mastodon.social

                          Der Spiegel's lead story, an interview with Robert Kagan: "We are witnessing how an entire country is transforming into a dictatorship almost without resistance."
                          Bitte, Der Spiegel, share the English version. Americans need to read it.
                          https://www.spiegel.de/geschichte/us-historiker-robert-kagan-wir-erleben-jetzt-wie-sich-ein-ganzes-land-fast-widerstandslos-in-eine-diktatur-verwandelt-a-2e284e4d-68de-497a-a43d-ba8fea322951

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                          @jeffjarvis
                          I couldn't get in the article without acceptin trackers 😕 and can't find the english version 😕 But I found this recent interview to Robert Kagan :

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                          ‘The United States is now a hostile and potentially predatory nation’, says conservative historian | CNN

                          In a new column in The Atlantic, Robert Kagan writes that Donald Trump “managed in one year to destroy the American order that was.”

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                          CNN (edition.cnn.com)

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                          • lazyb0y@mastodon.socialL lazyb0y@mastodon.social

                            @bredow
                            yeah i will - just tell the smart marketing people to let customers buy single articles for a dollar or euro instead of forcing them into expensive and longterm subscriptions and it will work.

                            potential customers keep requesting it but publishers keep ignoring it.

                            that is also a hugely better price per word than any subscription.

                            @DulceMaria @jeffjarvis

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                            @lazyb0y I've actually been advocating an invisible pass-through micro-payments idea for years now, but it would require carriers, content providers, and third-party financial facilitators to agree on a framework, and I appreciate how complicated that would be. But I still believe it's doable.

                            Basically, you'd pay maybe a few cents for some single article, per view, and that would be billed to your ISP, who would then bill you. The amounts are small enough that most ppl wouldn't notice or care.

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                              @jeffjarvis dear Jeff, thanks for posting this, I’ll see what I can do to get the interview on SPIEGEL international.

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                              @bredow Vielen Dank.

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                              • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

                                @lazyb0y I've actually been advocating an invisible pass-through micro-payments idea for years now, but it would require carriers, content providers, and third-party financial facilitators to agree on a framework, and I appreciate how complicated that would be. But I still believe it's doable.

                                Basically, you'd pay maybe a few cents for some single article, per view, and that would be billed to your ISP, who would then bill you. The amounts are small enough that most ppl wouldn't notice or care.

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                                @wesdym
                                just as their sales and msrketing she's not interested in listening to customer needs, instead she threatens people who post archive.ph links with legal action.

                                pure ignorance

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                                • jeffjarvis@mastodon.socialJ jeffjarvis@mastodon.social

                                  Der Spiegel's lead story, an interview with Robert Kagan: "We are witnessing how an entire country is transforming into a dictatorship almost without resistance."
                                  Bitte, Der Spiegel, share the English version. Americans need to read it.
                                  https://www.spiegel.de/geschichte/us-historiker-robert-kagan-wir-erleben-jetzt-wie-sich-ein-ganzes-land-fast-widerstandslos-in-eine-diktatur-verwandelt-a-2e284e4d-68de-497a-a43d-ba8fea322951

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                                  @jeffjarvis Here we go, Jeff: https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/u-s-historian-robert-kagan-we-are-watching-a-country-fall-under-dictatorship-almost-without-resistance-a-d262290b-cca0-4c2f-945d-2ef3b64c574f?sara_ref=re-so-app-sh

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                                    @jeffjarvis Here we go, Jeff: https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/u-s-historian-robert-kagan-we-are-watching-a-country-fall-under-dictatorship-almost-without-resistance-a-d262290b-cca0-4c2f-945d-2ef3b64c574f?sara_ref=re-so-app-sh

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                                    @bredow
                                    Vielen Dank!

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