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  3. I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

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  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

    That shit has done so much harm even here in Washington... a nominally and normally blue state adopted a law that forcibly outs queer kids in schools because of "parent's rights." No mention in the entire law of the fact that kids have their own rights, and that those rights include not being subjected to queerphobic violence at the hands of the state.

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    @xgranade it's okay, i am working on getting every democrat which voted for that turd of a law voted out.

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    • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

      I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

      Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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      @xgranade they call you cassandra because you speak the truth and they never listen
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      • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

        I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

        Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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        @xgranade i mean in many cases it seems "responsibilities too" seems to be functionally identical to "rights over"

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        • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

          I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

          Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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          @xgranade ah, that's a good way to think about it! Thanks!

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          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

            @xgranade Why can't we have a Parents Deicide Act instead.

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            @jwz @xgranade because old white pedos want to control other people's children and have an easy way to censor the Internet.

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            • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

              I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

              Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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              @xgranade Reminder: Adults above Children is a core US conservative value.

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              • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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                @xgranade so glad my teen turned 18 last month before this kind of stuff really landed, but it's awful for parents and kids and everyone else.

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                • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                  I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                  Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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                  @xgranade

                  > ll the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights"

                  Strange left-wing you got in the US, there. Almost as if you have no left-wing at all and call approximately center left-wing...

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                  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                    I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                    Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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                    @xgranade
                    It is one of the core differences.
                    If they changed, they might judge their #gods.
                    Neither would be bad.

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                      @kichae

                      https://toot.cat/@riley/116093536758968288

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                      • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                        I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                        Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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                        ⬆️ @xgranade

                        Two strong posts in one morning! Hope this movement gains strength.

                        #Boost

                        >> I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                        Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

                        Wren Reilly (@akareilly@hachyderm.io)

                        If politicians gave a shit about children, the schools would feature: - HVAC systems that cleaned viruses out of the air - at least two child psychologists on staff - age-appropriate lessons to help children identify abuse - funding for well-paid staff in numbers sufficient for a buddy system to reduce the chances of abuse - arts education and after-school clubs to provide third spaces for kids - massive, safe playgrounds - protected biking and walking infrastructure from the school to residential neighborhoods Instead we get “parents’ rights”, funding cuts, book bans, and car-centric infrastructure that kills pedestrians and bikers. If social media is bad for kids, THEY NEED ALTERNATIVES.

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                        • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                          I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                          Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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                          @xgranade

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                          is this in the US and about trans kids?

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                          • poemproducer@systerserver.townP poemproducer@systerserver.town

                            @xgranade

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                            is this in the US and about trans kids?

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                            @poemproducer The immediate antecedent was reading about yet more age verification laws, but the point is more general, and yeah, includes parents trying to exert ownership over kids' genders.

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                            • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                              I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                              Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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                              @xgranade "Parents' rights" are exactly like "states' rights" in that the first question you should be asking in response to them being invoked is "A parent's right to what motherfucker?"

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                              • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                                I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                                Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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                                @xgranade If I were less ethical, I’d create 1,000,000 accounts & boost this post 1,000,000 times.

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                                • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                                  (As an aside, I'm calling it "age verification" to reference media coverage, but even that is a pernicious disnomer. It's a requirement that identity be registered with a centralized agency, and that that centralized agency is a trusted attestor as to age. To wit, note how the iOS update to follow UK age verification laws mandates that users register their identities with US companies like credit card providers.)

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                                  Addendum: this is a good toot.

                                  Andrew (Television Executive) (@ajroach42@retro.social)

                                  There's a lot of legislation going around "for the children" right now that will have the impact of making us all less safe and free, making computers more difficult to use, and generally making life worse for everyone. Lots of folks are talking about this as if it is the only intended outcome of these laws, but it isn't Part of these laws are also about children. About controlling what kids can read, who they can talk to, what they can watch, and how they can interact with one another, making it harder for kids to use digital resources to learn about themselves and the world while at the same time making it easier for abusive and controlling parents to abuse and control their kids.

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                                  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                                    I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                                    Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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                                    @xgranade

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                                    • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                                      (As an aside, I'm calling it "age verification" to reference media coverage, but even that is a pernicious disnomer. It's a requirement that identity be registered with a centralized agency, and that that centralized agency is a trusted attestor as to age. To wit, note how the iOS update to follow UK age verification laws mandates that users register their identities with US companies like credit card providers.)

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                                      @xgranade

                                      And they will be the subject of data breaches. It's just a matter of time.

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                                      • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                                        I am so angry and disappointed at all the left- and center-wing commentators who bought into the right-wing framing of "parent's rights" as being more important than children's rights.

                                        Like, I'm sorry, but parents have *responsibilities to* kids, not *rights over* kids. Kids aren't property, they're living, breathing *people* who deserve care and love and privacy and dignity.

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                                        @xgranade that’s just the US culture of total reification, not a left or right thing

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                                        • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                                          @xgranade that’s just the US culture of total reification, not a left or right thing

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                                          @Kierkegaanks Read the post again. My complaint is about how left- and center-wing commentators reinforced the general framing of parents' rights.

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