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Make believe you're 12 years old again.

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  • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

    @ics FWIW, Darth Turnip has been more loyal to his henchmen than Darth Pumpkin. His primary criterion for rolling out the old window (or the drowning bathtub) appears to be, the victim either spoke publicly about his dark deeds, or refused to spend money for the Turnipate's benefit. (He probably conceptualises both of these as forms of "betrayal" and/or "treason".)

    So, at a point where Orbán turns out to genuinely no longer be more useful anymore, he'll probably be allowed to retire somewhere, mostly out of the public eye, in relative wealth. In case there will be considerable risk of Hungarian authorities catching up to specific crimes that he could be prosecuted for, he'll probably even get political asylum granted by Russia or Belarus.

    @benroyce

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    @ics Zhdanoka is an example of a loudmouth whom Darth Pumpkin appears to have helped to get into the Europarliament, for an example.

    @benroyce

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @riley @ics

      valid points

      i would reply that the average german has a sneering smoldering disgust for schroder, who has little power

      while the average hungarian has full throated white hot fury for orban, who does still have power

      so six of one, half a dozen of the other

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      @benroyce Schröder has no longer political power. But he's a sillionaire, and he got this way largely due to Gazprom's largesse.

      @ics

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      • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

        @benroyce Schröder has no longer political power. But he's a sillionaire, and he got this way largely due to Gazprom's largesse.

        @ics

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        @riley @ics

        yup. dark money, quiet influence

        on the upside:

        https://www.dw.com/en/german-ex-chancellor-gerhard-schr%C3%B6der-experiencing-burnout/a-71501286

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @riley @ics

          yup. dark money, quiet influence

          on the upside:

          https://www.dw.com/en/german-ex-chancellor-gerhard-schr%C3%B6der-experiencing-burnout/a-71501286

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          @benroyce If, say, AfD should suddenly need a "squeaky clean" political donation at some point, now, because of how the ties of dirty money work, Schröder might find himself being forced to enthusiastically donate it. It's not like he has any intent to accidentally drown in his bathtub while Darth Turnip's goons look on, is it? (See item 2 above of what Darth Turnip might consider unforgivable betrayal.)

          @ics

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @ics @riley

            orban is a gerhard schroder now

            not very useful, but still vaguely useful, but obviously highly flawed

            doomed to exist on the periphery as a scarcely tolerated embarrassment

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            @benroyce @ics @riley

            with less divorces though: Viktor has to catch-up.
            I can picture Orban as a Transneft advisor, especially for the Druzhba pipeline.

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            • francoisprague@mastodon.socialF francoisprague@mastodon.social

              @benroyce @ics @riley

              with less divorces though: Viktor has to catch-up.
              I can picture Orban as a Transneft advisor, especially for the Druzhba pipeline.

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              @FrancoisPrague @ics @riley

              Audi man!

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @ics @riley

                orban is a gerhard schroder now

                not very useful, but still vaguely useful, but obviously highly flawed

                doomed to exist on the periphery as a scarcely tolerated embarrassment

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                @benroyce @ics
                Reading this comment out of context, I take offense. How can anyone call Schröder useful?!?

                But yes, he was useful to Putin for a while.

                @riley

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                • iamlayer8@mastodon.socialI iamlayer8@mastodon.social

                  @benroyce @ics
                  Reading this comment out of context, I take offense. How can anyone call Schröder useful?!?

                  But yes, he was useful to Putin for a while.

                  @riley

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                  @iamlayer8 @ics @riley

                  a ringwraith, after the fall of sauron

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                  • iamlayer8@mastodon.socialI iamlayer8@mastodon.social

                    @benroyce @ics
                    Reading this comment out of context, I take offense. How can anyone call Schröder useful?!?

                    But yes, he was useful to Putin for a while.

                    @riley

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                    @benroyce @ics
                    Thanks for the correction - I’ll be always happy to learn

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @iamlayer8 @ics @riley

                      a ringwraith, after the fall of sauron

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                      @benroyce Where do you suppose ringworms came from?

                      @iamlayer8 @ics

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                      • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

                        @benroyce Where do you suppose ringworms came from?

                        @iamlayer8 @ics

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                        @riley @iamlayer8 @ics 😆

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