For me, Tim Cook will always and forever be that fake design award he gave Trump.
-
For me, Tim Cook will always and forever be that fake design award he gave Trump.
Not the supply chain optimization. Not Liquid Glass. The ass-kissing. It drowns out everything else.
-
@inthehands Wasn’t the ‘prize’ more of a bit of irony?
@MichaelimOdenwald You might be on to something. Had to look it up - it was not a prize, but a commemorative disk for the announcement to "increase [their] investment in U.S. manufacturing by an additional $100 billion over the next four years". (https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2025/trump-announces-apple-investing-another-100-billion-in-us-manufacturing/?utm_source=chatgpt.com).
Maybe not so much a bribe as a "try to remember what we did for a while there", with some gold from Utah (un?)helpfully added to the base to give it a nice weight.
Well. If so, then we at least now know it worked – on *us*
-
@inthehands don't forget the toxic gas emissions thing and being nasty to @ashleygjovik when she tried to get things fixed
Ashley M. Gjøvik, JD (@ashleygjovik@mastodon.social)
Attached: 4 images The Judge in my case compelled Apple to finally produce some of the EHS records for Apple's skunkworks chip fab. Here's Apple's 2019 arsine gas spill/leak risk model showing a 60lb release over 10min would create a 1 mile toxic death vapor cloud injuring/killing 5,000+ people.
Mastodon (mastodon.social)
@krupo Me: Apple, can you please stop leaking toxic gases into apartment windows and spilling mercury on that children's playground
Apple: Tim Cook's Apple: SET HER ON FIRE, BURN HER LIKE A WTICH, KEEP DUMPING CHEMICALS ON CHILDREN, DON'T LISTEN TO HER HEARSAY
-
For me, Tim Cook will always and forever be that fake design award he gave Trump.
Not the supply chain optimization. Not Liquid Glass. The ass-kissing. It drowns out everything else.
I just can’t agree with this. I mean…yes, I feel for the guy. I’ve never been in his position. I don’t know what kind of pressure he was under.
What I •do• know is that if you publicly, eagerly capitulate to fascists, whatever reasons you might have for that, you accept the consequences of that choice. Collaborators who capitulated out of self-preservation instead of belief are still collaborators.
Sgns (@Sgns@mastodon.social)
@inthehands@hachyderm.io It was a really bad look, but there’s a lot more to him. I think anybody who’s been in a situation where you’re constantly pressured to look good, while you’re responsible for the company, will understand. Sometimes you nearly fall on your nose.
Mastodon (mastodon.social)
-
I just can’t agree with this. I mean…yes, I feel for the guy. I’ve never been in his position. I don’t know what kind of pressure he was under.
What I •do• know is that if you publicly, eagerly capitulate to fascists, whatever reasons you might have for that, you accept the consequences of that choice. Collaborators who capitulated out of self-preservation instead of belief are still collaborators.
Sgns (@Sgns@mastodon.social)
@inthehands@hachyderm.io It was a really bad look, but there’s a lot more to him. I think anybody who’s been in a situation where you’re constantly pressured to look good, while you’re responsible for the company, will understand. Sometimes you nearly fall on your nose.
Mastodon (mastodon.social)
As @anildash said: What’s the point of having fuck-you money if you never say “fuck you?”
How Tim Cook sold out Steve Jobs - Anil Dash
A blog about making culture. Since 1999.
(www.anildash.com)
-
I just can’t agree with this. I mean…yes, I feel for the guy. I’ve never been in his position. I don’t know what kind of pressure he was under.
What I •do• know is that if you publicly, eagerly capitulate to fascists, whatever reasons you might have for that, you accept the consequences of that choice. Collaborators who capitulated out of self-preservation instead of belief are still collaborators.
Sgns (@Sgns@mastodon.social)
@inthehands@hachyderm.io It was a really bad look, but there’s a lot more to him. I think anybody who’s been in a situation where you’re constantly pressured to look good, while you’re responsible for the company, will understand. Sometimes you nearly fall on your nose.
Mastodon (mastodon.social)
@inthehands I mostly agree with that post, except for the hideous Liquid Glass thing.
-
@spiegelmama Yes, it might have been that. I'm saying that on the whole, this is a human, and he's done good things too. And sometimes your sense of responsibility is what can make you susceptible to take risks to save what you care for. Think for a second of the million worse ways Apple might have collaborated. Did they? I'll be interested to find out. I'm not prepared to black or white this. I understand the temptation to "make him pay". But if you lose sense of the human, who's losing?
@Sgns @spiegelmama may we all be judged upon all the worse things we could have done.
-
As @anildash said: What’s the point of having fuck-you money if you never say “fuck you?”
How Tim Cook sold out Steve Jobs - Anil Dash
A blog about making culture. Since 1999.
(www.anildash.com)
Huh, so the billionaire CEO of one of the richest and most powerful companies in the world has to kiss Trump’s ass because he’s just so vulnerable?
I don’t know, Tim, if Minneapolis can stand up to him, why can’t you?
-
@spiegelmama Yes, it might have been that. I'm saying that on the whole, this is a human, and he's done good things too. And sometimes your sense of responsibility is what can make you susceptible to take risks to save what you care for. Think for a second of the million worse ways Apple might have collaborated. Did they? I'll be interested to find out. I'm not prepared to black or white this. I understand the temptation to "make him pay". But if you lose sense of the human, who's losing?
@Sgns @spiegelmama I mean you've also got the Chinese megafactories with the suicide problems & the cobalt mining, so like that's not the only bad things if we're talking about the sense of the human and impacts of what he cares about.
-
Huh, so the billionaire CEO of one of the richest and most powerful companies in the world has to kiss Trump’s ass because he’s just so vulnerable?
I don’t know, Tim, if Minneapolis can stand up to him, why can’t you?
Standing up means accepting the potential consequences.
I don’t think many people make it to that level of wealth, power, and influence by saying, “fuck you” to anyone else in that elite network. Lesser beings? Sure, if they even warrant a “fuck you.” But other members of the club? That’s not how you gain or keep your membership. In other words, it’s a self selection issue.
-
@Sgns @inthehands Wow, no, bad take. It's not a "bad look," it's collaboration with an authoritarian. And it's a bribe. Just one of many, from one of many supplicant corporations. He wasn't trying hard and missing, he was contributing to the destruction of the rule of law.
@spiegelmama @Sgns @inthehands Agree 100% - the absolute worst take. TimApple could very easily have nothing for Trump and his pool would have been quite safe. He wasn't neutral - he has actively helped him.
-
I just can’t agree with this. I mean…yes, I feel for the guy. I’ve never been in his position. I don’t know what kind of pressure he was under.
What I •do• know is that if you publicly, eagerly capitulate to fascists, whatever reasons you might have for that, you accept the consequences of that choice. Collaborators who capitulated out of self-preservation instead of belief are still collaborators.
Sgns (@Sgns@mastodon.social)
@inthehands@hachyderm.io It was a really bad look, but there’s a lot more to him. I think anybody who’s been in a situation where you’re constantly pressured to look good, while you’re responsible for the company, will understand. Sometimes you nearly fall on your nose.
Mastodon (mastodon.social)
@inthehands The thing about it is, when Trump takes office a second time, you realize he will have a direct impact on your legacy. You know it. But you’ve been CEO for years at this point and you definitely have Enough money. Make the board fire you when you defy or even just ignore trump. Still defines your legacy but leaves room for your actions
-
Huh, so the billionaire CEO of one of the richest and most powerful companies in the world has to kiss Trump’s ass because he’s just so vulnerable?
I don’t know, Tim, if Minneapolis can stand up to him, why can’t you?
@inthehands Some 80 years later, we still remember the companies who collaborated with Nazis.
-
@inthehands Some 80 years later, we still remember the companies who collaborated with Nazis.
@JessTheUnstill @inthehands He's a quisling. A(nother) cis white gay man who is just fine cozying up to fascists.
Maybe not as bad as Peter Thiel, but who is to say? It's not like he's not out here giving his personal million dollars (not Apple's, but his own money) to the inauguration bribe fund.
-
@JessTheUnstill @inthehands He's a quisling. A(nother) cis white gay man who is just fine cozying up to fascists.
Maybe not as bad as Peter Thiel, but who is to say? It's not like he's not out here giving his personal million dollars (not Apple's, but his own money) to the inauguration bribe fund.
Cis white gay men at the end of the day are still cis white men, and far too many will eagerly hide behind that privilege to toss trans, Black, and or non-men under the bus.
@Unlikelylass @inthehands -
For me, Tim Cook will always and forever be that fake design award he gave Trump.
Not the supply chain optimization. Not Liquid Glass. The ass-kissing. It drowns out everything else.
@inthehands Liquid Glass is pretty f*cking terrible too. Not on the level of bowing to a fascist before you’re even asked, but definitely points in the negative column.
-
As @anildash said: What’s the point of having fuck-you money if you never say “fuck you?”
How Tim Cook sold out Steve Jobs - Anil Dash
A blog about making culture. Since 1999.
(www.anildash.com)
I guess thats why I'm poor. Never been shy about saying it very politely and firmly when asked to turn a blind eye.
The MN corporation I use to work for supported doing the right thing when I started 45 years ago, you could talk to honest company lawyers about issues. Maybe it was because it was run by engineers and the board and a majority of stock holders where MN. Then the board composition changed, they decided you needed an mba to be management, understanding of comercializing new technology eroded, and a backstabbing culture emerged as cuts were made repeatedly after programs on unrealistic timelines failed to produce on target. Communication was replaced with lies and posturing.
My experience and expertise didn't change, nor did the reality of physics and manufacturing. I refused to stop being politely realistic about what it took to succeed at the ventures proposed. I was repeatedly advised to just do the impossible. Ultimately, I walked out at 61 after being told to take a 3 level lower position to to help new PhDs learn development. Because I was honest and cared about making endeavors successful.Now our country has become a cesspool of the same process that took a good tech company down. We need to learn together to care, communicate, value knowlege, and refuse to participate in harm to others if we are going to build teams that can create a new world for us all. I learned what I believe in and to be who I am growing up in Minnesota. Lets keep it going.
-
-
Huh, so the billionaire CEO of one of the richest and most powerful companies in the world has to kiss Trump’s ass because he’s just so vulnerable?
I don’t know, Tim, if Minneapolis can stand up to him, why can’t you?
@inthehands I half agree, but here's another perspective: Apple directly employs around 150k people with maybe 1M more working primarily on supporting Apple at suppliers etc. All of that is connected by a supply chain that is built on top of agreements and trust that Apple will be a reliable (if difficult) counterparty for the various companies and governments involved. Faced with a capricious and impulsive president, one who threatens all of those jobs, what is the right thing to do?
-
@inthehands I half agree, but here's another perspective: Apple directly employs around 150k people with maybe 1M more working primarily on supporting Apple at suppliers etc. All of that is connected by a supply chain that is built on top of agreements and trust that Apple will be a reliable (if difficult) counterparty for the various companies and governments involved. Faced with a capricious and impulsive president, one who threatens all of those jobs, what is the right thing to do?
@inthehands Tim personally isn't very vulnerable, he could get on a plane and live out forever in Switzerland or wherever he chose, but the rest of the company is effectively held hostage by random moronic trade policy. What he appears to have done is accept the indignity of being "Tim Apple" and presenting a token tribute that was the least gaudy yet gaudy bauble they could come up with, in the hopes that it would maintain stability. I'm not sure it's right, but I'm also not sure it's wrong.
