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For me, Tim Cook will always and forever be that fake design award he gave Trump.

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  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

    For me, Tim Cook will always and forever be that fake design award he gave Trump.

    Not the supply chain optimization. Not Liquid Glass. The ass-kissing. It drowns out everything else.

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    @inthehands that fake award wasn't the supply chain optimization he thought it was...

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    • pettet8@mastodon.socialP pettet8@mastodon.social

      @ahltorp "..You can fully interact with French banks using their own apps, websites, and payment solutions. Apple or Google infrastructure is only necessary if you choose to use their specific services (e.g., Apple Pay, Google Pay, or fintech apps that rely on them).."

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      @Pettet8 That is also true with (most) Swedish banks if you only need to perform classic bank transactions. If you need to send money immediately to someone, though, like paying for something at a bake sale, you have to use BankID, and thus Apple or Google phones. And the bake sale won’t accept cash, and even if they do, they won’t have change.

      There are so many other things that are either impossible or artificially made much more complicated by not having it. You are expected to have BankID.

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      • sashin@veganism.socialS sashin@veganism.social

        @nunesgh @WildEyedBoyFromFreecloud @inthehands This is worse than doing nothing he went out of his way to comply in advance.

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        @sashin @nunesgh @inthehands I couldn't agree more.

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        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

          For me, Tim Cook will always and forever be that fake design award he gave Trump.

          Not the supply chain optimization. Not Liquid Glass. The ass-kissing. It drowns out everything else.

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          @inthehands

          That's like the Fifa peace prize.

          They do soccer?

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          • michaelimodenwald@hessen.socialM michaelimodenwald@hessen.social

            @inthehands Wasn’t the ‘prize’ more of a bit of irony?

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            @MichaelimOdenwald You might be on to something. Had to look it up - it was not a prize, but a commemorative disk for the announcement to "increase [their] investment in U.S. manufacturing by an additional $100 billion over the next four years". (https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2025/trump-announces-apple-investing-another-100-billion-in-us-manufacturing/?utm_source=chatgpt.com).

            Maybe not so much a bribe as a "try to remember what we did for a while there", with some gold from Utah (un?)helpfully added to the base to give it a nice weight.

            Well. If so, then we at least now know it worked – on *us* 😃

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            • krupo@infosec.exchangeK krupo@infosec.exchange

              @inthehands don't forget the toxic gas emissions thing and being nasty to @ashleygjovik when she tried to get things fixed

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              Attached: 4 images The Judge in my case compelled Apple to finally produce some of the EHS records for Apple's skunkworks chip fab. Here's Apple's 2019 arsine gas spill/leak risk model showing a 60lb release over 10min would create a 1 mile toxic death vapor cloud injuring/killing 5,000+ people.

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              @krupo Me: Apple, can you please stop leaking toxic gases into apartment windows and spilling mercury on that children's playground

              Apple: Tim Cook's Apple: SET HER ON FIRE, BURN HER LIKE A WTICH, KEEP DUMPING CHEMICALS ON CHILDREN, DON'T LISTEN TO HER HEARSAY

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              • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                For me, Tim Cook will always and forever be that fake design award he gave Trump.

                Not the supply chain optimization. Not Liquid Glass. The ass-kissing. It drowns out everything else.

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                I just can’t agree with this. I mean…yes, I feel for the guy. I’ve never been in his position. I don’t know what kind of pressure he was under.

                What I •do• know is that if you publicly, eagerly capitulate to fascists, whatever reasons you might have for that, you accept the consequences of that choice. Collaborators who capitulated out of self-preservation instead of belief are still collaborators.

                https://mastodon.social/@Sgns/116441133941793969

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                • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                  I just can’t agree with this. I mean…yes, I feel for the guy. I’ve never been in his position. I don’t know what kind of pressure he was under.

                  What I •do• know is that if you publicly, eagerly capitulate to fascists, whatever reasons you might have for that, you accept the consequences of that choice. Collaborators who capitulated out of self-preservation instead of belief are still collaborators.

                  https://mastodon.social/@Sgns/116441133941793969

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                  As @anildash said: What’s the point of having fuck-you money if you never say “fuck you?”

                  https://www.anildash.com/2025/09/09/how-tim-cook-sold-out-steve-jobs/

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                  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                    I just can’t agree with this. I mean…yes, I feel for the guy. I’ve never been in his position. I don’t know what kind of pressure he was under.

                    What I •do• know is that if you publicly, eagerly capitulate to fascists, whatever reasons you might have for that, you accept the consequences of that choice. Collaborators who capitulated out of self-preservation instead of belief are still collaborators.

                    https://mastodon.social/@Sgns/116441133941793969

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                    @inthehands I mostly agree with that post, except for the hideous Liquid Glass thing.

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                    • sgns@mastodon.socialS sgns@mastodon.social

                      @spiegelmama Yes, it might have been that. I'm saying that on the whole, this is a human, and he's done good things too. And sometimes your sense of responsibility is what can make you susceptible to take risks to save what you care for. Think for a second of the million worse ways Apple might have collaborated. Did they? I'll be interested to find out. I'm not prepared to black or white this. I understand the temptation to "make him pay". But if you lose sense of the human, who's losing?

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                      @Sgns @spiegelmama may we all be judged upon all the worse things we could have done.

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                      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                        As @anildash said: What’s the point of having fuck-you money if you never say “fuck you?”

                        https://www.anildash.com/2025/09/09/how-tim-cook-sold-out-steve-jobs/

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                        Huh, so the billionaire CEO of one of the richest and most powerful companies in the world has to kiss Trump’s ass because he’s just so vulnerable?

                        I don’t know, Tim, if Minneapolis can stand up to him, why can’t you?

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                        • sgns@mastodon.socialS sgns@mastodon.social

                          @spiegelmama Yes, it might have been that. I'm saying that on the whole, this is a human, and he's done good things too. And sometimes your sense of responsibility is what can make you susceptible to take risks to save what you care for. Think for a second of the million worse ways Apple might have collaborated. Did they? I'll be interested to find out. I'm not prepared to black or white this. I understand the temptation to "make him pay". But if you lose sense of the human, who's losing?

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                          @Sgns @spiegelmama I mean you've also got the Chinese megafactories with the suicide problems & the cobalt mining, so like that's not the only bad things if we're talking about the sense of the human and impacts of what he cares about.

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                          • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                            Huh, so the billionaire CEO of one of the richest and most powerful companies in the world has to kiss Trump’s ass because he’s just so vulnerable?

                            I don’t know, Tim, if Minneapolis can stand up to him, why can’t you?

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                            @inthehands

                            Standing up means accepting the potential consequences.

                            I don’t think many people make it to that level of wealth, power, and influence by saying, “fuck you” to anyone else in that elite network. Lesser beings? Sure, if they even warrant a “fuck you.” But other members of the club? That’s not how you gain or keep your membership. In other words, it’s a self selection issue.

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                            • spiegelmama@infosec.exchangeS spiegelmama@infosec.exchange

                              @Sgns @inthehands Wow, no, bad take. It's not a "bad look," it's collaboration with an authoritarian. And it's a bribe. Just one of many, from one of many supplicant corporations. He wasn't trying hard and missing, he was contributing to the destruction of the rule of law.

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                              @spiegelmama @Sgns @inthehands Agree 100% - the absolute worst take. TimApple could very easily have nothing for Trump and his pool would have been quite safe. He wasn't neutral - he has actively helped him.

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                              • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                I just can’t agree with this. I mean…yes, I feel for the guy. I’ve never been in his position. I don’t know what kind of pressure he was under.

                                What I •do• know is that if you publicly, eagerly capitulate to fascists, whatever reasons you might have for that, you accept the consequences of that choice. Collaborators who capitulated out of self-preservation instead of belief are still collaborators.

                                https://mastodon.social/@Sgns/116441133941793969

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                                @inthehands The thing about it is, when Trump takes office a second time, you realize he will have a direct impact on your legacy. You know it. But you’ve been CEO for years at this point and you definitely have Enough money. Make the board fire you when you defy or even just ignore trump. Still defines your legacy but leaves room for your actions

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                                • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                  Huh, so the billionaire CEO of one of the richest and most powerful companies in the world has to kiss Trump’s ass because he’s just so vulnerable?

                                  I don’t know, Tim, if Minneapolis can stand up to him, why can’t you?

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                                  @inthehands Some 80 years later, we still remember the companies who collaborated with Nazis.

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                                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                    @inthehands Some 80 years later, we still remember the companies who collaborated with Nazis.

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                                    @JessTheUnstill @inthehands He's a quisling. A(nother) cis white gay man who is just fine cozying up to fascists.

                                    Maybe not as bad as Peter Thiel, but who is to say? It's not like he's not out here giving his personal million dollars (not Apple's, but his own money) to the inauguration bribe fund.

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                                    • unlikelylass@mspsocial.netU unlikelylass@mspsocial.net

                                      @JessTheUnstill @inthehands He's a quisling. A(nother) cis white gay man who is just fine cozying up to fascists.

                                      Maybe not as bad as Peter Thiel, but who is to say? It's not like he's not out here giving his personal million dollars (not Apple's, but his own money) to the inauguration bribe fund.

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                                      Cis white gay men at the end of the day are still cis white men, and far too many will eagerly hide behind that privilege to toss trans, Black, and or non-men under the bus.
                                      @Unlikelylass @inthehands

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                                      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                        For me, Tim Cook will always and forever be that fake design award he gave Trump.

                                        Not the supply chain optimization. Not Liquid Glass. The ass-kissing. It drowns out everything else.

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                                        @inthehands Liquid Glass is pretty f*cking terrible too. Not on the level of bowing to a fascist before you’re even asked, but definitely points in the negative column.

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                                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                          As @anildash said: What’s the point of having fuck-you money if you never say “fuck you?”

                                          https://www.anildash.com/2025/09/09/how-tim-cook-sold-out-steve-jobs/

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                                          @inthehands @anildash

                                          I guess thats why I'm poor. Never been shy about saying it very politely and firmly when asked to turn a blind eye.

                                          The MN corporation I use to work for supported doing the right thing when I started 45 years ago, you could talk to honest company lawyers about issues. Maybe it was because it was run by engineers and the board and a majority of stock holders where MN. Then the board composition changed, they decided you needed an mba to be management, understanding of comercializing new technology eroded, and a backstabbing culture emerged as cuts were made repeatedly after programs on unrealistic timelines failed to produce on target. Communication was replaced with lies and posturing.
                                          My experience and expertise didn't change, nor did the reality of physics and manufacturing. I refused to stop being politely realistic about what it took to succeed at the ventures proposed. I was repeatedly advised to just do the impossible. Ultimately, I walked out at 61 after being told to take a 3 level lower position to to help new PhDs learn development. Because I was honest and cared about making endeavors successful.

                                          Now our country has become a cesspool of the same process that took a good tech company down. We need to learn together to care, communicate, value knowlege, and refuse to participate in harm to others if we are going to build teams that can create a new world for us all. I learned what I believe in and to be who I am growing up in Minnesota. Lets keep it going.

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