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When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

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  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

    @evan

    I mean, I can definitely live with it. I just wonder if it's an additional concept that will need to be explained when talking about the fediverse with a more general audience.

    I feel like I'd probably be saying "instance, also called server" a lot, same as when I sometimes say "Mastodon and the larger fediverse".

    Although, admittedly, I'm relying on personal and other anecdotal experience when I assume that less techy people are familiar with "servers". (Eg. Discord using the term, my own conversations at work with non-developers, etc.)

    @andypiper

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    @stefan @andypiper I meant, can we live with me leaving it on this poll? Actually, I shouldn't ask; I really rarely change polls once they've started.

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    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

      @stefan @andypiper I meant, can we live with me leaving it on this poll? Actually, I shouldn't ask; I really rarely change polls once they've started.

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      @evan Ahh, got it. Yes, changing it would just reset the votes, so definitely best to keep the current options.

      @andypiper

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      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

        When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

        #EvanPoll #poll

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        @evan

        ✅ Critterball

        #monsterdon

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          @evan@cosocial.ca @gaditb@icosahedron.website

          I see illustrations like this of interconnected Fediverse platforms, kind of often, and from an end users point of view, it just isn't that true. E.g. I need a completely different user account for the "threadiverse" platforms (Lemmy/Kbin/Mbin/Piefed) versus all the blogging ones (Mastodon, Gotosocial, Wafrn, Pleroma, Misskey, etc.) and neither of those accounts get me logged into Mobilizon, etc. And claiming general interconnectedness & interoperability is way misleading to potential new users.

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          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

            When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

            #EvanPoll #poll

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            @evan

            Being a literal-minded person, I chose Instances (/servers) because that's what handles the data.

            But an alternate graph might be best described with hashtags.

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            • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

              @evan @andypiper Same here, definitely prefer "servers" to "instances", but my favorite is "communities".

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              @stefan @evan @andypiper
              When you say "server" I imagine hardware hosting different software so an ilustrated node would imply multiple instances and it doesn't sound right.
              I'm in with the software option because it highlight the diversity in contrast with centralized solutions.
              Communities is a great one too.

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              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                #EvanPoll #poll

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                @evan I would try to use instances in different colors by the software used with different sizes depending on the amount of people using that instance.
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                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                  When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                  #EvanPoll #poll

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                  @evan I think this is a sneaky good question actually. It reminds me of a blog post @laurenshof wrote a few months back about how communities form. I voted software which I interpreted as the type of platform (Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed etc) but I think it could just as easily be any of the choices

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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                    #EvanPoll #poll

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                    @evan

                    E) All of the above.

                    You can do the one diagram, but different copies with the different words, then stack them all on-top of each other to make the Fediverse

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                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                      When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                      #EvanPoll #poll

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                      @evan pretty sure it is mostly cats and elephants.

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                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                        @stefan @andypiper Servers would have been better. Can we live with instances?

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                        @evan @stefan yes definitely - I was making an observation not suggesting a change!

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                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                          When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                          #EvanPoll #poll

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                          @evan I reckon people, but have them clustered in supernodes which represent the instances they're connecting through.

                          But then I'm assuming you want to show the data flow, how the connections work between people and how those connections can fail or be blocked.

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                          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                            When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                            #EvanPoll #poll

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                            @evan Cute kittens? 🙂

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                            • gaditb@icosahedron.websiteG gaditb@icosahedron.website

                              @evan
                              I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean by "software", but potentially "Everything but Topics".
                              There probably shouldn't be Only One Diagram.

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                              @gaditb @evan Yeah, "topics" is the only wrong answer.

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                              • lovestha@floss.socialL lovestha@floss.social

                                @gaditb @evan Yeah, "topics" is the only wrong answer.

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                                @LovesTha @gaditb it's not multiple choice.

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                                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                  When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                                  #EvanPoll #poll

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                                  @evan Cats.

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                                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                    When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                                    #EvanPoll #poll

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                                    @evan

                                    I think you have to start with instances, but I don't think you call them that. An instance is a technical term that is completely meaningless to almost everyone.

                                    Call it a Community.

                                    That's the core of the hierarchy.

                                    • A Community decides to host a Social Platform
                                    • That Community selects the types of content they want to share and then runs the appropriate software (Mastodon, PeerTube, PixelFed, Friendica, etc)
                                    • That Community enables its members to join via the software they've set up
                                    • That Community can then communicate with other Communities via the protocols available (ActivityPub)

                                    The software is really secondary here. A community could run multiple pieces of software for their own purposes. In fact they probably should. The CBC Community should run both Mastodon and PeerTube.

                                    It's not "one instance", It's a community running instances of all of the software they need.

                                    I know you have an option for "people", but I don't think that is specific enough. It's "Communities of People".

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