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My mom used to do environmental activism.

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  • miki_lou@mastodon.socialM miki_lou@mastodon.social

    @smutmag Committed activists never stop, they just change strategies when barriers or people get in the way. Hope your mom is still standing up for Mother Earth. She needs all of our help these days.

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    @miki_lou @smutmag

    Committed activists welcome as many people as possible into their movement.

    Committed activists don't get hung up on unimportant stuff, and don't alienate potential allies.

    Committed activists pay attention to the community they are creating.

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    • psh@infosec.exchangeP psh@infosec.exchange

      @smutmag

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      @smutmag @psh ah but you also get politicians with puritan fervor to no avail

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      • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

        My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

        Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

        And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

        Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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        @smutmag legend

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        • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

          My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

          Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

          And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

          Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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          @smutmag

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          • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

            My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

            Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

            And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

            Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

            saeedt@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @smutmag Extremist people can be dangerous. In every group, there are always some who go too far to the other extreme. And ironically, the most harmful people for any group are often those who are the most intense and fanatical.

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            • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

              @miki_lou @smutmag

              Committed activists welcome as many people as possible into their movement.

              Committed activists don't get hung up on unimportant stuff, and don't alienate potential allies.

              Committed activists pay attention to the community they are creating.

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              @jztusk @smutmag ๐Ÿ’ฏ

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              • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

                Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

                And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

                Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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                @smutmag Wow, that's ossome. I hope she clapped back at them with her head held high as she left, about the environmental footprint of a thing such as a barbecue (and what, pray tell, were they barbecuing? AFAF).

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                • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                  My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

                  Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

                  And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

                  Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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                  @smutmag i'm sorry if this should be obvious to me but, question

                  what possible environmentalist motivation could have they had for treating her that way? or was it just sexism?

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                  • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                    My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

                    Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

                    And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

                    Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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                    @smutmag yes! I just got attacked by a batch of trans because I told them that OTC hormones like testosterone won't happen here. And I'm an ally! I'm also not in control of hormone regulation

                    So they're all blocked because all they did was curse and accuse me of enjoying their tit shots. I'm a nurse. Don't care about naked bodies. ๐Ÿ™„

                    I did ask them if their "shoot first and ask questions later" was working for them, but I guess it's so much fun to insult people that they didn't consider

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                    • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                      My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

                      Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

                      And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

                      Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

                      hananc@tooot.imH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @smutmag I want to read more about her. What is her name?

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                      • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                        My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

                        Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

                        And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

                        Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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                        @smutmag @steltenpower That kind of gatekeeping and virtue snobbishness is so counter-productive.

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                        • saeedt@mastodon.socialS saeedt@mastodon.social

                          @smutmag Extremist people can be dangerous. In every group, there are always some who go too far to the other extreme. And ironically, the most harmful people for any group are often those who are the most intense and fanatical.

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                          @saeedt @smutmag It's like Rowling "protecting" women by encouraging people take pictures of them in restrooms and ask for male security to remove those they deem sus... I feel very protected, really.

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                          • hananc@tooot.imH hananc@tooot.im

                            @smutmag I want to read more about her. What is her name?

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                            @hananc Well, I wouldn't share it anyway, but it also wouldn't do you any good--she wasn't mentioned by name by Time, She was just referred to as a "whistleblower." She was trying not to have my dad lose his job over it, but he did, anyway.

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                            • isocat@tiggi.esI isocat@tiggi.es

                              @smutmag Wow, that's ossome. I hope she clapped back at them with her head held high as she left, about the environmental footprint of a thing such as a barbecue (and what, pray tell, were they barbecuing? AFAF).

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                              @isocat Well, that was the other thing they didn't like. It was a BYO barbecue, and she brought me at...because she thought that's what a barbecue was. But everyone else was doing veggie kabobs.

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                              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                @smutmag i'm sorry if this should be obvious to me but, question

                                what possible environmentalist motivation could have they had for treating her that way? or was it just sexism?

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                                @whitequark It was an earthy/crunchy aesthetic within the group that called for everything being all natural and not-consumerist. My mom will live without a car, and conserve utilities all day, but she loves beauty products and always has and always will. At the end of the day, ironically, the earthy crunchy people were being superficial. They didn't like what her aesthetic signaled.

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                                • D deepmud@mas.to

                                  @smutmag yes! I just got attacked by a batch of trans because I told them that OTC hormones like testosterone won't happen here. And I'm an ally! I'm also not in control of hormone regulation

                                  So they're all blocked because all they did was curse and accuse me of enjoying their tit shots. I'm a nurse. Don't care about naked bodies. ๐Ÿ™„

                                  I did ask them if their "shoot first and ask questions later" was working for them, but I guess it's so much fun to insult people that they didn't consider

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                                  @deepmud

                                  Mate . . . trans people don't actually need cis people to explain that their rhetoric is too extreme. If you want a loaf of bread, you have to demand a bakery, because if you ask for a loaf, you'll get maybe one slice.

                                  We want self ID and informed consent, so we ask for "Hrt over the counter and for free."

                                  Its really not necessary to assume we're uninformed.

                                  The OP is talking about something like what's described in 'The Tyranny Structrelessness' but you're discussing an ally telling the impacted group to ask for less. These are quite different scenarios.

                                  I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but your intervention was not an example of being a good ally. Sometimes you've got to just be be quiet while the kids are demanding an unrealistic, better world.

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                                  • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                                    My mom used to do environmental activism. All by herself, she got earth day started, got a recycling center going in town, and was a whistleblower about Dow chemical using agent orange. She was mentioned in Time Magazine for it.

                                    Then she went to a barbecue for environmentalists. They put her down for wearing red lipstick and long nails.

                                    And then her activism days petered out because she didn't want to hang out with these people.

                                    Make sure you can see the forest for the trees.

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                                    @smutmag This isn't going to have the effect you think it's going to have. Your mother is not a hero for being fragile and unable to ignore criticism.

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                                    • D deepmud@mas.to

                                      @smutmag yes! I just got attacked by a batch of trans because I told them that OTC hormones like testosterone won't happen here. And I'm an ally! I'm also not in control of hormone regulation

                                      So they're all blocked because all they did was curse and accuse me of enjoying their tit shots. I'm a nurse. Don't care about naked bodies. ๐Ÿ™„

                                      I did ask them if their "shoot first and ask questions later" was working for them, but I guess it's so much fun to insult people that they didn't consider

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                                      @deepmud @smutmag oh you poor dear

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                                      • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                                        @whitequark It was an earthy/crunchy aesthetic within the group that called for everything being all natural and not-consumerist. My mom will live without a car, and conserve utilities all day, but she loves beauty products and always has and always will. At the end of the day, ironically, the earthy crunchy people were being superficial. They didn't like what her aesthetic signaled.

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                                        @smutmag @whitequark Putting blaming individual behavior aside, how can you blame a person for not being environmentalist enough *on a barbecue* that you're organizing?!

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                                        • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                                          @whitequark It was an earthy/crunchy aesthetic within the group that called for everything being all natural and not-consumerist. My mom will live without a car, and conserve utilities all day, but she loves beauty products and always has and always will. At the end of the day, ironically, the earthy crunchy people were being superficial. They didn't like what her aesthetic signaled.

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                                          @smutmag that is some impressively self-defeating nonsense

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