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  • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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    Hey, Starmer!

    If you want to avoid a Reform Ltd. win in the general election, I suggest three legislative priorities:

    • Political funding reform. Require all donations to come from individual eligible voters and cap the amount. Ban all additional contributions and all second jobs for MPs.
    • Give the regulator real teeth, including the ability to trigger by elections and bar candidates and parties from standing if they have violated the rules.
    • Do the same with the independent press regulator, with the ability to fine news organisations on a scale that increases with every infraction for actively misleading articles. Apply the same regulation to large ‘social media’ (I.e. advertising) platforms.

    Thanks,

    kbm0@mastodon.socialK cb@social.treehouse.systemsC ananas@scicomm.xyzA allende1973@todon.nlA ltratt@mastodon.socialL 5 Replies Last reply
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    • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

      Hey, Starmer!

      If you want to avoid a Reform Ltd. win in the general election, I suggest three legislative priorities:

      • Political funding reform. Require all donations to come from individual eligible voters and cap the amount. Ban all additional contributions and all second jobs for MPs.
      • Give the regulator real teeth, including the ability to trigger by elections and bar candidates and parties from standing if they have violated the rules.
      • Do the same with the independent press regulator, with the ability to fine news organisations on a scale that increases with every infraction for actively misleading articles. Apply the same regulation to large ‘social media’ (I.e. advertising) platforms.

      Thanks,

      kbm0@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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      @david_chisnall There seems to be an attitude that they need to take Reform on in a "fair fight", i.e. treat them at face value as honest political opponents, rather than as a corrupt vehicle for shady monied interests to gain control of the state. I suspect this is an enormous mistake.

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      • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

        Hey, Starmer!

        If you want to avoid a Reform Ltd. win in the general election, I suggest three legislative priorities:

        • Political funding reform. Require all donations to come from individual eligible voters and cap the amount. Ban all additional contributions and all second jobs for MPs.
        • Give the regulator real teeth, including the ability to trigger by elections and bar candidates and parties from standing if they have violated the rules.
        • Do the same with the independent press regulator, with the ability to fine news organisations on a scale that increases with every infraction for actively misleading articles. Apply the same regulation to large ‘social media’ (I.e. advertising) platforms.

        Thanks,

        cb@social.treehouse.systemsC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @david_chisnall this is plugging holes in the boat as it’s capsizing

        if you’re talking a reform that would make a reform win less possible, electoral
        reform to avoid an FPTP situation might help, but if ghouls like reform are still winning the most votes, the UK is still screwed even with proportional representation (but after the tories fumbled everything for years and voters rewarded them for it, and labour doing nothing after that…)

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        • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

          Hey, Starmer!

          If you want to avoid a Reform Ltd. win in the general election, I suggest three legislative priorities:

          • Political funding reform. Require all donations to come from individual eligible voters and cap the amount. Ban all additional contributions and all second jobs for MPs.
          • Give the regulator real teeth, including the ability to trigger by elections and bar candidates and parties from standing if they have violated the rules.
          • Do the same with the independent press regulator, with the ability to fine news organisations on a scale that increases with every infraction for actively misleading articles. Apply the same regulation to large ‘social media’ (I.e. advertising) platforms.

          Thanks,

          ananas@scicomm.xyzA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @david_chisnall While you are at it, what you really need in the UK is a sane voting system instead of FPTP.

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          • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

            Hey, Starmer!

            If you want to avoid a Reform Ltd. win in the general election, I suggest three legislative priorities:

            • Political funding reform. Require all donations to come from individual eligible voters and cap the amount. Ban all additional contributions and all second jobs for MPs.
            • Give the regulator real teeth, including the ability to trigger by elections and bar candidates and parties from standing if they have violated the rules.
            • Do the same with the independent press regulator, with the ability to fine news organisations on a scale that increases with every infraction for actively misleading articles. Apply the same regulation to large ‘social media’ (I.e. advertising) platforms.

            Thanks,

            allende1973@todon.nlA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @david_chisnall

            Won't happen - but it is intructional to explore why.

            Starmer serves the same interests as Farage.

            That's why.

            A similar analysis applies to the USA - and explains why the Democrats wont implement good legislation. Because they serve the same interests that the GOP does.

            The "difference" between these parties is choreographed performance, to give the public a constrained choice at elections.

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            • allende1973@todon.nlA allende1973@todon.nl

              @david_chisnall

              Won't happen - but it is intructional to explore why.

              Starmer serves the same interests as Farage.

              That's why.

              A similar analysis applies to the USA - and explains why the Democrats wont implement good legislation. Because they serve the same interests that the GOP does.

              The "difference" between these parties is choreographed performance, to give the public a constrained choice at elections.

              david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @allende1973

              I agree, though this is not true of everyone in his party and hopefully repeating calls for this kind of intervention will cause those others to ask the same questions.

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              • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                Hey, Starmer!

                If you want to avoid a Reform Ltd. win in the general election, I suggest three legislative priorities:

                • Political funding reform. Require all donations to come from individual eligible voters and cap the amount. Ban all additional contributions and all second jobs for MPs.
                • Give the regulator real teeth, including the ability to trigger by elections and bar candidates and parties from standing if they have violated the rules.
                • Do the same with the independent press regulator, with the ability to fine news organisations on a scale that increases with every infraction for actively misleading articles. Apply the same regulation to large ‘social media’ (I.e. advertising) platforms.

                Thanks,

                ltratt@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                @david_chisnall Re: second jobs. We increasingly struggle to get good candidates into politics. Surely the last thing we want to do is narrow the pool even further? For example, you'd have to be Sir-Humphrey-brave to stand in a byelection knowing that you have to give up your livelihood, perhaps for only a few months, and then perhaps be worse off than before you started. There are some jobs that are incompatible with being an MP. I don't think I want, say, a dentist to stop practising, though.

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                • ltratt@mastodon.socialL ltratt@mastodon.social

                  @david_chisnall Re: second jobs. We increasingly struggle to get good candidates into politics. Surely the last thing we want to do is narrow the pool even further? For example, you'd have to be Sir-Humphrey-brave to stand in a byelection knowing that you have to give up your livelihood, perhaps for only a few months, and then perhaps be worse off than before you started. There are some jobs that are incompatible with being an MP. I don't think I want, say, a dentist to stop practising, though.

                  david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @ltratt

                  If you can't take the time required to be an MP off from your job, you can't do the job of MP. It isn't a part-time gig. I wouldn't want someone taking a full patient load as a dentist and being an MP, they'll do at least one of them badly. If you have some requirement to retain certification, you can do some pro bono work to meet the minimum until you return, but you can't take payment.

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