The only difference is that electron wrapper is a browser that works for them, not for you.
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@mhoye I like @pluralistic's line, "An app is just a web-page wrapped in enough IP to make it a felony to block ads in it".
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@PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic i just used their "free consultation" form to request a consultation on meatspin dot com. hope they enjoy that
you should view source on that webpage, the data validation is entirely vibe coded lol
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@robinadams @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic
they say some wild stuff, check out other blog posts
https://www.ad-shield.io/blog/will-restoring-ads-for-dark-traffic-harm-user-experience"Recover where there is clear user tolerance. IT-level environments, bundled solutions, default opt-ins — audiences where blocking was never an explicit user choice."
yeah right, the IT Manager made the decision, and you overrode it with some wild justifications
Oh by the way, these guys holds some patents
US-12438933-B2
"Method and device for providing advertisement by counteracting on violent advertisement blocking function "
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There is also a very pesky anti adblocker on the web that is coming for mobile.
Ad-Shield Now Restores In-App Ads For Adblocking Traffic - Ad-Shield
Ad-Shield launches in-app ad recovery for adblocking traffic. Android beta live, iOS coming soon — restore lost revenue from VPN and network-level dark traffic.
(www.ad-shield.io)
Oh by the way.
In case you weren't aware
they're the folks behind html-load[.]com and report.error-report[.]com
You've probably seen them around
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There is also a very pesky anti adblocker on the web that is coming for mobile.
Ad-Shield Now Restores In-App Ads For Adblocking Traffic - Ad-Shield
Ad-Shield launches in-app ad recovery for adblocking traffic. Android beta live, iOS coming soon — restore lost revenue from VPN and network-level dark traffic.
(www.ad-shield.io)
@PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic Wow that's dark.
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There is also a very pesky anti adblocker on the web that is coming for mobile.
Ad-Shield Now Restores In-App Ads For Adblocking Traffic - Ad-Shield
Ad-Shield launches in-app ad recovery for adblocking traffic. Android beta live, iOS coming soon — restore lost revenue from VPN and network-level dark traffic.
(www.ad-shield.io)
@PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic
What the HELL are they smoking?
Your users will welcome you trying to defeat their attempts to defeat your ads. ?
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@ianjs @PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic
"I especially like 'Revenue lost from an audience of which 85% expects or accepts ads'. You mean, the ones who went to the trouble of blocking them?"
Exactly. This isn't any use to someone actually trying to sell a product or service. There probably isn't a single person on earth -- not even one -- who's going to go, "Oh gee, you bypassed my ad-blocker, but, instead of being pissed off at you, I'm going to take a look at your ad, click it, and buy the advertised product."
What's the point then? Probably ad fraud. Charging the companies trying to sell products/services for showing their ad more times, even though those additional showings have zero chance of leading to a sale.
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@ianjs @PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic
"I especially like 'Revenue lost from an audience of which 85% expects or accepts ads'. You mean, the ones who went to the trouble of blocking them?"
Exactly. This isn't any use to someone actually trying to sell a product or service. There probably isn't a single person on earth -- not even one -- who's going to go, "Oh gee, you bypassed my ad-blocker, but, instead of being pissed off at you, I'm going to take a look at your ad, click it, and buy the advertised product."
What's the point then? Probably ad fraud. Charging the companies trying to sell products/services for showing their ad more times, even though those additional showings have zero chance of leading to a sale.
@cwbussard @ianjs @PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic
That line also stood out to me: “Revenue lost from an audience of which 85% expects or accepts ads as part of the experience. The irony is cruel, but it doesn’t have to be this way.”
Expects and accepts are VERY different things. I expect to deal with a bunch of homophobic bullshit when I am in Texas. I have never at any moment of my life accepted it. This is massive false equivalency, and also nothing about that is ironic. And until ad networks stop serving malware, it really DOES have to be this way.
We apologize for or revel in our cruelty.
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The only difference is that electron wrapper is a browser that works for them, not for you. Tracking protection, adblockers, none of that in here for you!
Pavel A. Samsonov (@PavelASamsonov@mastodon.social)
Attached: 1 image Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally
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@mhoye
Well, they just said it's better. They didn't say it was better for *you*. -
The only difference is that electron wrapper is a browser that works for them, not for you. Tracking protection, adblockers, none of that in here for you!
Pavel A. Samsonov (@PavelASamsonov@mastodon.social)
Attached: 1 image Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally
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They leave out, "for us"
