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  3. The FBI case against the Southern Poverty Law Center basically says that if you donate money to the SPLC, then they use some of it to pay informants to infiltrate white nationalist organizations to uncover stuff like this.

The FBI case against the Southern Poverty Law Center basically says that if you donate money to the SPLC, then they use some of it to pay informants to infiltrate white nationalist organizations to uncover stuff like this.

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  • grayhaven@ni.hil.istG grayhaven@ni.hil.ist

    @artemis Hmm, IronVest's consumer product is "Ivy by IronVest, your AI bodyguard for the internet!" https://getivy.ai/

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    @grayhaven
    Aha. Thanks for the heads up. Not impressed by that....

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    • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

      This is where the people that donated to the Southern Poverty Law Center went to donate, so that their money could be used to infiltrate and uncover white nationalist organizations.

      So don't donate here unless you want some of your money to be used to uncover white nationalist organizations.

      Just a moment...

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      @mekkaokereke Honestly, I had MSF (Doctors Without Borders) higher on my list of “places I regularly donate (and report to the government) that will be declared terrorist organizations.”

      Of course, I never had such a list before the current administration, so the curation is sketchy.

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      • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

        This is where the people that donated to the Southern Poverty Law Center went to donate, so that their money could be used to infiltrate and uncover white nationalist organizations.

        So don't donate here unless you want some of your money to be used to uncover white nationalist organizations.

        Just a moment...

        favicon

        (secure.splcenter.org)

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        @mekkaokereke link is broken. I went to their homepage and it’s the same donate link as there. I am hoping that your Post crashed their donation server and it will be back up soon.🤞

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        • not2b@sfba.socialN not2b@sfba.social

          @monkeyninja @mekkaokereke As a 501-c3 they might not be able to accept anonymized contributions, though.

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          @not2b @mekkaokereke Right on, I definitely didn't know that was the case, that's a great call out.

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          • not2b@sfba.socialN not2b@sfba.social

            @mekkaokereke I have donated to them before, knowing full well about their use of informants to infiltrate the Klan. That is the work I wanted to support. I gave them more money after this stupid indictment.

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            @mekkaokereke @not2b

            The southern poverty law center calls out Indigenous water protectors in Hawaii as terrorists. I don't donate to them. I used to. Until they did that.

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            • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

              @mekkaokereke @not2b

              The southern poverty law center calls out Indigenous water protectors in Hawaii as terrorists. I don't donate to them. I used to. Until they did that.

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              @FranceskaMann @mekkaokereke When did they do that? I can't find any reference to it.

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              • not2b@sfba.socialN not2b@sfba.social

                @FranceskaMann @mekkaokereke When did they do that? I can't find any reference to it.

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                @mekkaokereke @not2b

                They send out mailers to people who donate. They made that a cover story and then wrote about it. They called Hawaii's indigenous water protectors a "hate group". 14 years I lived in Hawaii. I never met a hateful Hawaiian person. I complained & stopped donating. I probably wasn't the only person who did so. So maybe they've stopped advertising and bragging about targeting indigenous people? I hope so.

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                • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                  This is where the people that donated to the Southern Poverty Law Center went to donate, so that their money could be used to infiltrate and uncover white nationalist organizations.

                  So don't donate here unless you want some of your money to be used to uncover white nationalist organizations.

                  Just a moment...

                  favicon

                  (secure.splcenter.org)

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                  @mekkaokereke thanks for the reminder. Got done.

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                  • monkeyninja@10base2.devM monkeyninja@10base2.dev

                    @mekkaokereke Man it would be a pity if people used services like Cloaked or IronVest for payments as they obfuscate the payer data, use zero logging, and are outside five-eyes territory. Then you could donate to such organizations fairly anonymously. It would just be such a shame if people knew about that.

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                    @monkeyninja

                    Theres no need for subterfuge here. Just send them money. Theyre as legit as anything can be.

                    @mekkaokereke

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                    • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                      The FBI case against the Southern Poverty Law Center basically says that if you donate money to the SPLC, then they use some of it to pay informants to infiltrate white nationalist organizations to uncover stuff like this.

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                      Stephen Miller

                      Stephen Miller is credited with shaping the racist and draconian immigration policies of President Trump, which include the zero-tolerance policy, also known as family separation, the Muslim ban and ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. Miller has also “purged” government agencies of civil servants who are not entirely loyal to his extremist agenda, according to a report […]

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                      @mekkaokereke

                      I use my credit unions "bill pay" feature. It lets me schedule payments, avoids credit card companies' take, and i can see at one glance who im giving money to.

                      I switched to this a few yrsr5s back after a spate of CC fraud where i had a new CC number every few months.

                      It confuses some orgs thet use CCs ro maintain "membership" (make you feel like you're part, benefits etc) but i just want them to have my money i dont need the frou frou.

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                      • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                        The FBI case against the Southern Poverty Law Center basically says that if you donate money to the SPLC, then they use some of it to pay informants to infiltrate white nationalist organizations to uncover stuff like this.

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                        Stephen Miller

                        Stephen Miller is credited with shaping the racist and draconian immigration policies of President Trump, which include the zero-tolerance policy, also known as family separation, the Muslim ban and ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. Miller has also “purged” government agencies of civil servants who are not entirely loyal to his extremist agenda, according to a report […]

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                        @mekkaokereke I wonder if this is going to be a Streisand indictment.

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                        • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                          The FBI case against the Southern Poverty Law Center basically says that if you donate money to the SPLC, then they use some of it to pay informants to infiltrate white nationalist organizations to uncover stuff like this.

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                          Stephen Miller

                          Stephen Miller is credited with shaping the racist and draconian immigration policies of President Trump, which include the zero-tolerance policy, also known as family separation, the Muslim ban and ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. Miller has also “purged” government agencies of civil servants who are not entirely loyal to his extremist agenda, according to a report […]

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                          @mekkaokereke

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                          • tomjennings@tldr.nettime.orgT tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org

                            @monkeyninja

                            Theres no need for subterfuge here. Just send them money. Theyre as legit as anything can be.

                            @mekkaokereke

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                            @tomjennings @monkeyninja sure, SPLC is legit, but the government using its investigative powers to harass them and their donors, is not

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                            • fuzzychef@m6n.ioF fuzzychef@m6n.io

                              @mekkaokereke Thanks for letting us know what to "avoid".

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                              @fuzzychef @mekkaokereke

                              In the same vein, thanks for banning all the books worth reading.

                              It's a good thing that young people never break the rules or push any boundaries. I'm sure those bans keeping books out of libraries will keep the kids from ever reading them at all rather than, say, scoring one bootleg copy and passing it around the whole middle school.

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                              • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                                @mekkaokereke

                                SPLC has been doing heroic and effective work curbing and exposing racists and white nationalists for years. that high level of effectiveness is exactly why they are being targeted by the current administration...

                                i hope everyone who can donates to them.

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                                @paul_ipv6 @mekkaokereke
                                We shouldn't trust anything from the current Justice Dept. That said, my understanding is that #SPLC is an organisation more interested in enriching itself than in fighting racism. E.g., from the #NewYorker:

                                "In 1995, the Montgomery Advertiser had been a Pulitzer finalist for a series that documented, among other things, staffers’ allegations of racial discrimination within the organization."

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                                • raven667@hachyderm.ioR raven667@hachyderm.io

                                  @tomjennings @monkeyninja sure, SPLC is legit, but the government using its investigative powers to harass them and their donors, is not

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                                  @raven667

                                  Is there evidence that gov't is harassing individual donors?

                                  Is that enough to stop you?

                                  Why comply in advance? It won't save you.

                                  @monkeyninja

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                                  • mpjgregoire@cosocial.caM mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca

                                    @paul_ipv6 @mekkaokereke
                                    We shouldn't trust anything from the current Justice Dept. That said, my understanding is that #SPLC is an organisation more interested in enriching itself than in fighting racism. E.g., from the #NewYorker:

                                    "In 1995, the Montgomery Advertiser had been a Pulitzer finalist for a series that documented, among other things, staffers’ allegations of racial discrimination within the organization."

                                    1/2

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                                    "In Harper’s, Ken Silverstein had revealed that the center had accumulated an endowment topping [$120M] while paying lavish salaries to its highest-ranking staffers and spending far less than most nonprofit groups on the work that it claimed to do. The great Southern journalist John Egerton, writing for The Progressive, had painted a damning portrait of [...] civil-rights work mainly as a marketing tool for bilking gullible Northern liberals."

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                                    Bob Moser writes on the Southern Poverty Law Center firing its co-founder and longtime mastermind Morris Dees, after years of allegations of sexual harassment and racial discrimination against him.

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                                    • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

                                      @mekkaokereke @not2b

                                      They send out mailers to people who donate. They made that a cover story and then wrote about it. They called Hawaii's indigenous water protectors a "hate group". 14 years I lived in Hawaii. I never met a hateful Hawaiian person. I complained & stopped donating. I probably wasn't the only person who did so. So maybe they've stopped advertising and bragging about targeting indigenous people? I hope so.

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                                      @FranceskaMann @mekkaokereke I would like to find out the details. I am not saying this because I doubt you. I would like to know though.

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                                      • tomjennings@tldr.nettime.orgT tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org

                                        @raven667

                                        Is there evidence that gov't is harassing individual donors?

                                        Is that enough to stop you?

                                        Why comply in advance? It won't save you.

                                        @monkeyninja

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                                        @tomjennings @raven667 There’s a world of difference between “complying in advance” and “I’m part of a group with targets on their backs and keeping a low profile is what allows me to not have daily panic attacks.”

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                                        • mpjgregoire@cosocial.caM mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca

                                          "In Harper’s, Ken Silverstein had revealed that the center had accumulated an endowment topping [$120M] while paying lavish salaries to its highest-ranking staffers and spending far less than most nonprofit groups on the work that it claimed to do. The great Southern journalist John Egerton, writing for The Progressive, had painted a damning portrait of [...] civil-rights work mainly as a marketing tool for bilking gullible Northern liberals."

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          The Reckoning of Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center

                                          Bob Moser writes on the Southern Poverty Law Center firing its co-founder and longtime mastermind Morris Dees, after years of allegations of sexual harassment and racial discrimination against him.

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                                          The New Yorker (www.newyorker.com)

                                          @paul_ipv6 @mekkaokereke

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                                          @mpjgregoire @mekkaokereke

                                          a hatchet job by the NYT is more endorsement than condemnation in my mind...

                                          they've been a fascist publicity firm in their op-eds and choice/wording of headlines longer than i've been alive.

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