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Can you run Signal with basically no iOS or Android devices right now and still do the (mandatory) prove-your-phone-id steps?

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    Can you run Signal with basically no iOS or Android devices right now and still do the (mandatory) prove-your-phone-id steps?

    It feels like very near future I, and everyone else who cares about computing autotonomy, we're all gonna have to start runnin' the Linux phones, no matter how non-ideal that user experience is right now

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    @cwebber signal-cli

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      Can you run Signal with basically no iOS or Android devices right now and still do the (mandatory) prove-your-phone-id steps?

      It feels like very near future I, and everyone else who cares about computing autotonomy, we're all gonna have to start runnin' the Linux phones, no matter how non-ideal that user experience is right now

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      @cwebber

      I think it'd also help to lobby for keeping to be possible to exist in society without needing any smartphone.

      Community linux becomes even harder to use if you need commercial apps to unlock a car, pay for transit, interact with a bank, or authenticate to the government

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        Can you run Signal with basically no iOS or Android devices right now and still do the (mandatory) prove-your-phone-id steps?

        It feels like very near future I, and everyone else who cares about computing autotonomy, we're all gonna have to start runnin' the Linux phones, no matter how non-ideal that user experience is right now

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        @cwebber I have started using delta chat for this reason

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        • vv@solarpunk.moeV vv@solarpunk.moe

          @Canageek @cwebber I think the issue is when these phones break and there are no new android phones that can be used due to hardware lockdown

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          @vv @Canageek @cwebber GrapheneOS is working with a major OEM to provide an alternative to Pixel phones in 2027.

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          • domi@donotsta.reD domi@donotsta.re

            @timorl@social.wuatek.is @Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net @cwebber@social.coop oh. happy signal-cli receive day for those who celebrate, i'm due...

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            @domi@donotsta.re @cwebber@social.coop @timorl@social.wuatek.is sometimes I browse the JSON logs just to reminisce.

            ah yes, I remember receiving that typing indicator yesterday over breakfast.

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              Can you run Signal with basically no iOS or Android devices right now and still do the (mandatory) prove-your-phone-id steps?

              It feels like very near future I, and everyone else who cares about computing autotonomy, we're all gonna have to start runnin' the Linux phones, no matter how non-ideal that user experience is right now

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              @cwebber It can be done with flare (https://flathub.org/en/apps/de.schmidhuberj.Flare) and with signal-cli.

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              • yuvalne@433.worldY yuvalne@433.world

                @Seirdy @cwebber signal-cli does indeed advertise supporting registration.
                https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli

                also i do want to ask, don't most Mobile Linux projects support running android apps in one way or another? it should be possible then (if not easy, though maybe there's some reservations i'm not aware of) to run the mobile version of Signal on a Linux phone.

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                @Yuvalne@433.world @cwebber@social.coop They support it at the expense of security. No robust SELinux-enabled Android sandbox.

                Then again, Signal Desktop has no sandbox either. Which is…concerning.

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  Can you run Signal with basically no iOS or Android devices right now and still do the (mandatory) prove-your-phone-id steps?

                  It feels like very near future I, and everyone else who cares about computing autotonomy, we're all gonna have to start runnin' the Linux phones, no matter how non-ideal that user experience is right now

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                  @cwebber What's the leading non-Android Linux phone these days?
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                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                    Can you run Signal with basically no iOS or Android devices right now and still do the (mandatory) prove-your-phone-id steps?

                    It feels like very near future I, and everyone else who cares about computing autotonomy, we're all gonna have to start runnin' the Linux phones, no matter how non-ideal that user experience is right now

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                    @cwebber There is no special device permission to verify the ownership of the phone number. It's based on SMS. AIUI you've always been fine running Signal on a different phone than the one your SIM is in. Same should work with real full client on non-Android Linux.

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                    • vv@solarpunk.moeV vv@solarpunk.moe

                      @Canageek @cwebber I think the issue is when these phones break and there are no new android phones that can be used due to hardware lockdown

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                      @vv @Canageek @cwebber The oligarchs are not going to stop tightening the screws. I think we seriously need to start planning out how to vertically integrate a liberatory society, from agriculture on up through high technology.

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                      • csepp@merveilles.townC csepp@merveilles.town

                        @cwebber You need a number that can receive an SMS. You can use signal-cli as your "primary" device. It's a bit cumbersome, you need to take a screenshot of a QR code that keeps changing (or patch Signal Desktop to show an URL?) and feed that into signal-cli, but it works.

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                        @csepp @cwebber

                        I tried last year to set up a second signal account without using any kind of phone. I went through every option people suggested and just could not get it to work. Part of it seemed like Signal just wouldn't send an SMS to any of the VoIP numbers that I gave it.

                        Eventually just gave up and bought another phone. Still irritated that I need to have one phone on hand per signal account or context.

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