check out this aliexpress motherboard gacha https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006100511771.html

[sen@gnulinux.social]

@whitequark sorry, THIS is the faustian bargain we are making now? You can have PS/2 or a TPM but not both? What's next? USB-A or SATA but not both?!?!

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@sen there are some motherboards where you have to choose between more NVME or more SATA, yeah

[saikou@gts.chuuni.solutions]

@whitequark ssr ssd

[azonenberg@ioc.exchange]

@whitequark new aliexpress lootbox drop

[wezm@mastodon.decentralised.social]

@whitequark what's the deal here? They can't be bothered sorting the inventory, or they don't want to be stuck with the version people don't want so divvy them out pseudo-randomly?

[r@glauca.space]

@whitequark huh, we're normally somewhat desensitized to ESLisms, but we were curious enough once you've mentioned it and..... this is english's fault, as far as we can tell!

doing a reverse machine translation yields a rather directly-corresponding "请理解" which *is* literally "[please] [understand/comprehend]" but would idiomatically be "please be understanding"

because the copula in english is weird!

[evamik@uwu.mikkonen.com]

@whitequark But hey, cheap ass Xeon CPU support, I use one of these kind of boards on my HTPC. It even has a beeper speaker!

[r@glauca.space]

@whitequark unless you're talking about the principle of the thing, in which case that just feels like typical aliexpress

[void@mastodon.sdf.org]

@whitequark
sorry glorified wholesaler, i only pull gatcha for mommy!

[uep@timeloop.cafe]

@wezm @whitequark that, probably mostly the former, with the additional wrinkle that the packaging may not label them differently and they don't want to send opened boxes either.

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@wezm former I think

[fm_volker@mastodon.social]

@whitequark AliExpress lootbox?

[nicolai@babka.social]

@wezm @whitequark sorting the inventory costs more than it is worth

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@r it's a stark contrast to western retailers like amazon that bend over three times for any customer request no matter how stupid

[krutonium@social.treehouse.systems]

@whitequark @sen The worst part is when they have both, but you lose 2 SATA if you populate the NVME. ;n;

[theking@mskey.nekomimi.party]

@whitequark@social.treehouse.systems there is another header that is on yhe old one but not the new one??

[theking@mskey.nekomimi.party]

@whitequark@social.treehouse.systems there is a whole IC missing on the bottom of the new one

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@theking presumably the PS/2 controller sitting on the TPM bus

[ppxl@social.tchncs.de]

@whitequark wtf how do these folks do business

[viss@mastodon.social]

@whitequark ... wh.. whats.. whats that 'chance' section there at the top? is that like, youre rolling the dice ordering this thing because thats the odds you actually get what you ordered?