Blind folks, what would make you want to use, or try out, Linux?
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@pixelate
I'm not visually impaired, but if there isn't a UEFI screen reader that you can flash onto firmware, there ought to be, and a Linux driver to use the UEFI screen reader ought to exist as well, if it doesn't already.@ramin_hal9001 I've not heard of anyone trying to make a UEFI screen reader. That would be so, so nice though.
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@seeingwithsound Oh yay, The vOICe for Linux!
@pixelate If only the Linux Wine developers implemented the Microsoft Video for Windows video capture function capCreateCaptureWindow() then The vOICe for Windows would run fine under Linux with Wine. For now, The vOICe web app works with modern browsers in Linux (or any other platform).
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Blind folks, what would make you want to use, or try out, Linux?
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@pixelate Desktop Linux is a no go for me. The level of accessibility is far below acceptable. I have used headless servers though, and have a Pi 4B which I've set up to be headless. I'm fine with setups like that.
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@pixelate Chromebook lying around on which I could install Linux with the understanding that I wouldn't be using this Chromebook to do literally any of my school work
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@pixelate A stable screen reader and accessibility that's reliable and comparable to what one gets in proprietary systems.
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@pixelate Audio demos of some cool applications
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@modulux @quetzatl @pixelate The removal of the vt subsystem was what I was refering to.
Not coming from the kernel folks, but rather the distro folks like fedora, which heavily drives the development of systemd and other distros. Can you imagine that? Having to get a full wayland stack with at-spi and orca just to get a terminal? I cannot. And the extremely ableist comments from the kernel mailing list drove it home for me. Nicolas Pitre himself is pissed off about this change. And noone listens to him in all of this. What chance do the rest of us have?
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@modulux @quetzatl @pixelate The removal of the vt subsystem was what I was refering to.
Not coming from the kernel folks, but rather the distro folks like fedora, which heavily drives the development of systemd and other distros. Can you imagine that? Having to get a full wayland stack with at-spi and orca just to get a terminal? I cannot. And the extremely ableist comments from the kernel mailing list drove it home for me. Nicolas Pitre himself is pissed off about this change. And noone listens to him in all of this. What chance do the rest of us have?
@modulux @quetzatl @pixelate And, as windows is as bad but for various other reasons, I am going away to mac. I have never tried it yet, after all. It was a combo of several things happening that caused me to decide this extreme:
https://xogium.me/173-times-why-a-simple-arch-linux-reinstall-pushed-me-to-look-at-macos
https://xogium.me/the-next-best-decision-stepping-away-from-the-linux-desktop -
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@pixelate Desktop Linux is a no go for me. The level of accessibility is far below acceptable. I have used headless servers though, and have a Pi 4B which I've set up to be headless. I'm fine with setups like that.
@bscross32 @pixelate Hot take: Linux Desktop is like Windows Server. A misused operating system, I mean. I've never said a bad word about Linux on servers: the only solution I use and recommend, the best system for that. But on desktop…
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Blind folks, what would make you want to use, or try out, Linux?
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@pixelate Not having to do hours and hours of research into distros and packages and shell commands to get things minimally working. Like, someone just tell me what to install and have it not involve 50 steps. Also a comprehensive guide/tutorials about how to do basic stuff with keyboard navigation and Orca, like navigating around parts of the OS and common GUI programs.
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@pixelate An actual DAW. Access to remote incident manager or jump desktop.
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@bscross32 @pixelate Hot take: Linux Desktop is like Windows Server. A misused operating system, I mean. I've never said a bad word about Linux on servers: the only solution I use and recommend, the best system for that. But on desktop…
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@pixelate
Not blind.
Reading this thread has me wondering if a body like the EU Commission could step up with money for targetted development of Linux to work towards inclusivity goals.(And digital security goals, military security goals, & digital sovereignty goals. )
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@pixelate Not a blind person here, hope that’s OK. I found it remarkable that the screen reader was enabled by default after installing Pop OS.
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@pixelate I'm currently trying it out, I've set up an Ubuntu system and so far I'm really liking it. I just want to get away from this incomprehensible, slow to respond, constantly hanging Windows. I'm just not satisfied with the selection of tools that have to replace the ones I already have under Windows. And of course I really miss Eloquence as my primary voice on every device.
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@pixelate I'm currently trying it out, I've set up an Ubuntu system and so far I'm really liking it. I just want to get away from this incomprehensible, slow to respond, constantly hanging Windows. I'm just not satisfied with the selection of tools that have to replace the ones I already have under Windows. And of course I really miss Eloquence as my primary voice on every device.
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@menelion @pixelate That was a bit misleadingly worded. The lagging referred specifically to Windows; it's simply no fun working with a system that has delays of several seconds when opening apps, menus, and the like. Most of the tools I need are available for Linux anyway; I only need to find alternatives for two or three. And until recently, Eloquence was also available from Voxin; I'm currently trying to find out if it's still available to install anywhere.
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@menelion @pixelate That was a bit misleadingly worded. The lagging referred specifically to Windows; it's simply no fun working with a system that has delays of several seconds when opening apps, menus, and the like. Most of the tools I need are available for Linux anyway; I only need to find alternatives for two or three. And until recently, Eloquence was also available from Voxin; I'm currently trying to find out if it's still available to install anywhere.
