Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

[rysiek@mstdn.social]

@reiddragon @bstacey @nina_kali_nina probably? Or it's a question of degrees, of how difficult/consequential we make getting someone to vouch for a new person to be.

And we can have layers.

Again, think of fedi. There are some instances that have open registrations. There are some with pretty minimal mod approval. And then there are some that have very strict rules and vetting for new members.

These different approaches exist in the same space, those instances often federate.

[reiddragon@fedi.catto.garden]

@shia @SRAZKVT @nina_kali_nina ACPI was also supposed to help with that, but Microsoft was involved so of course it didn't achieve it.

[grillchen@brot.eus]

@nina_kali_nina mhh my (paid) work mostly ends up on github. despite that i dont expect much from people and projects using github as publishing platform.

side note i am not sure myself when i find genai ok and and when i oppose it.
i know i certainly dislike it in some cases. but not all.

[rysiek@mstdn.social]

@reiddragon well, putting a "human captcha" and not accepting anyone in without passing it first is not a "default-open system".

And again, a question of degrees.

I also cannot stress enough how important in my view is trust across the nodes of the web, so to speak.

If my instance trusts your instance, and your instance trusts that third party instance, and that third party instance accepted a particular person, then my instance should trust that.

@bstacey @nina_kali_nina

[rysiek@mstdn.social]

@reiddragon and if we want to get philosophical, that's how the Internet has always been, kinda!

One had to have Internet access to be on the Web in late 1990s / early 2000s, and that was a filter. Then Eternal September came, because people started getting access en masse. That changed assumptions and the experience of being online.

Same with code foundries. Initially the mere fact that someone has a code foundry account was enough of a filter.

@bstacey @nina_kali_nina

[rysiek@mstdn.social]

@reiddragon and same with fedi. Initially, the fact someone was on fedi was enough of a filter/verification.

This is changing now, faster with code foundries, slower with fedi (because fedi already did some of the cultural and technical homework to make it possible for admins/mods to keep people on their instances safe from abuse).

So in a way, we've always had these artificial, unofficial, inadvertent "verification filters".

@bstacey @nina_kali_nina

[rysiek@mstdn.social]

@reiddragon what I am saying is: maybe it is time to make them explicit and deliberate.

And that might not necessarily be a bad thing, either. Because the filters of old were, to some extent, elitist: having Internet access in the early 2000's; being able to code; etc.

If we're doing this more deliberately, we can choose to make the filter be less that and more egalitarian. Maybe.

@bstacey @nina_kali_nina

[nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt]

@lispi314 @bstacey @rysiek

> How'd you even find the money for that as a kid?

My school would take us to the regional competitions twice a year. It was possible to either join or ask someone to look for a book or two for you. It was an extremely isolating time, and the stable internet access has speed up things considerably, eventually. So I'm not arguing that this should be the way for things to be, I'm saying that it still leaves options, even if slim.

> Rather than retreating in obscurantism I would prefer asking the solarpunk initiatives for ideas (they're also having to deal with glowies being a problem, like many such social initiatives).

Solarpunk way, I think having a subscription magazine could help. A way to connect with like-minded people that is carefully curated

[nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt]

@codecat @loredema at this point, they probably would train on anything. They literally hire people to write code for the training data right now.

[nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt]

@lispi314 @bstacey @rysiek our family's income level was "growing up potatoes on every bit of land we had to not starve" fwiw.

We were lucky, schools in our area had budgets for things like sending kids to sport and science events. That includes even schools with a dozen of students across all ages. There were DIY competitions, sports competitions (I went to a chess tournament), math/writing/science competitions (here I went to the math competitions, mostly), and such. It was an event that has happened once or twice a year, and the free roam time was extremely limited, but it wasn't uncommon for teachers to say "hey kids, let's go to a bookshop/CD shop"

[moses_izumi@fe.disroot.org]

@domi @lanodan @lumi @nina_kali_nina
My dream is to at some point daily-drive BSD, 9front or a minimal Linux, paired with some kind of Wine jail to bridge the compatibility gaps.
- cheaper than a VM, while still having 3D acceleration (even in windowed mode)
- never used Cairo Shell, but it seems to incorporate most of the good things about Linux GUIs

basically what @hikari 's Loss32 project is striving toward