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  3. It's important to remember that when #Orban does his #Putin bootlicking thing and blocks #EU funding for #Ukraine, all that happens is each individual country donates their share directly to Ukraine instead

It's important to remember that when #Orban does his #Putin bootlicking thing and blocks #EU funding for #Ukraine, all that happens is each individual country donates their share directly to Ukraine instead

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  • robo105@mastodon.socialR robo105@mastodon.social

    @benroyce Can we trade Ukraine with Putin for Hungary?

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    @Robo105 @benroyce bad deal. Belgium? They appear to want to. Well, half of it then.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      It's important to remember that when #Orban does his #Putin bootlicking thing and blocks #EU funding for #Ukraine, all that happens is each individual country donates their share directly to Ukraine instead

      It's still important though to make a big deal of it, to highlight what a massive piece of shit Orban is

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      @benroyce I don’t believe this is how it works. At EU-level many “leaders” (warning: protofascist framing) have committed, yet on the national level resist, blaming the EU for all things unpopular with the alt right, other xenophobes and racists, and other useful idiots.

      I NL, the gang leader of the real power in the Dutch govt, Lyin’ Dilan, has already ruled out extending Ukraine support. Idiots, useful.

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      • js@mastodon.nlJ js@mastodon.nl

        @benroyce I don’t believe this is how it works. At EU-level many “leaders” (warning: protofascist framing) have committed, yet on the national level resist, blaming the EU for all things unpopular with the alt right, other xenophobes and racists, and other useful idiots.

        I NL, the gang leader of the real power in the Dutch govt, Lyin’ Dilan, has already ruled out extending Ukraine support. Idiots, useful.

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        @js

        well i'm just a dumb american, but the Netherlands remains among the countries providing the most support to Ukraine

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @js

          well i'm just a dumb american, but the Netherlands remains among the countries providing the most support to Ukraine

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          @benroyce That 90bd was additional to the already allocated national support programs. These national programs will not automatically expand in case of EU obstruction by a Putin machination.

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          • js@mastodon.nlJ js@mastodon.nl

            @benroyce That 90bd was additional to the already allocated national support programs. These national programs will not automatically expand in case of EU obstruction by a Putin machination.

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            @js

            well we're both wrong

            you're wrong because the money is still getting to Ukraine, delayed, with some sort of Alternative Spending (Plan B) loan

            and i'm wrong because yes it won't be individual countries making loans

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            • allgeier@sueden.socialA allgeier@sueden.social

              @RocknRoll_Papy
              Curieusement, ce soi-disant problème est signalé sans exception par des Français. L'espagnol ou l'italien me semblent toutefois plus appropriés que le français après l'anglais.
              @benroyce

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              @allgeier @benroyce
              Je ne serais pas du tout gêné qu'elle parle l'allemand ...

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              • rocknroll_papy@mastodon.socialR rocknroll_papy@mastodon.social

                @allgeier @benroyce
                Je ne serais pas du tout gêné qu'elle parle l'allemand ...

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                @RocknRoll_Papy @allgeier

                L’anglais est du français qui s’ignore

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @RocknRoll_Papy

                  all it takes for communication to happen is that everyone agrees on a lingua franca

                  the problem is, once that decision has been made, and people gravitate towards that common solution, the raison d'etre is set in stone

                  it's a fait accompli

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                  @benroyce
                  Ils peuvent parler comme ils le veulent entre eux, dans leurs conversations de vive voix, en tête à tête ou en visio-conf. Mais là, elle est en train de faire une déclaration officielle en tant que présidente de la Commission européenne et je ne comprends pas qu'elle (Macron c'est pareil) se sente obligée de le faire autrement qu'en allemand.

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                  • rocknroll_papy@mastodon.socialR rocknroll_papy@mastodon.social

                    @benroyce
                    Ils peuvent parler comme ils le veulent entre eux, dans leurs conversations de vive voix, en tête à tête ou en visio-conf. Mais là, elle est en train de faire une déclaration officielle en tant que présidente de la Commission européenne et je ne comprends pas qu'elle (Macron c'est pareil) se sente obligée de le faire autrement qu'en allemand.

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                    @RocknRoll_Papy

                    C’est une relique de l’histoire. L’anglais en est venu à dominer le monde. Je vous parle depuis la terre qui aime encore Lafayette — simplement pour dire : c’est ainsi.

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @RocknRoll_Papy @allgeier

                      L’anglais est du français qui s’ignore

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                      @benroyce
                      😁
                      @RocknRoll_Papy

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                      • rocknroll_papy@mastodon.socialR rocknroll_papy@mastodon.social

                        @allgeier @benroyce
                        Je ne serais pas du tout gêné qu'elle parle l'allemand ...

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                        #24

                        @RocknRoll_Papy
                        Seriously though, English is actually the easiest language for all Romance-speaking native speakers to learn as a second language. This has nothing to do with nationalism—it’s purely practical. And you know that, so what’s the point?
                        @benroyce

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