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  • jenjen@mastodon.artJ jenjen@mastodon.art

    EDIT: I DID IT
    I did a terminal!

    Opening inkscape now - thank you!

    halla@kde.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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    @JenJen This is probably easiest: https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.4.3/gnulinux/appimage/dl/ -- then download it and, if needed, right-click in your file manager and make it executable, then click or double-click.

    There are other options, like flathub, or your distro repo, but those are more complicated.

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    • jenjen@mastodon.artJ jenjen@mastodon.art

      EDIT: I DID IT
      I did a terminal!

      Opening inkscape now - thank you!

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      @JenJen you can just open "software manager" and type it into the search. There will be 2 versions, 1 regular and 1 from Flathub. The Flathub version downloads all dependencies separately and runs in a sandbox (better for software you don't trust). The regular version installs the dependencies system-wide (so multiple programs can reuse it, saving space) and has access to all files that your user can access(= doesn't run in a sandbox).

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        @JenJen But if you want the very latest version, and don't want to have to install anything else to make things work:

        Go to https://inkscape.org/release/1.4.3/gnulinux/
        then download the AppImage,
        open its download location in your file manager,
        right click on it
        open its Properties
        Select the permissions tab
        Tick the Allow executing file as a program box
        Close the window
        Double click on the AppImage file to run it

        (I'm on a slightly different Debian-descendent OS, but I think this is the right set of steps for Mint - apologies if I'm off about the location of permissions, but it should be enough to get you there with a bit of observation)

        Also, oops, accidentally used the lewd account to discuss Linux.

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        • halla@kde.socialH halla@kde.social

          @JenJen This is probably easiest: https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.4.3/gnulinux/appimage/dl/ -- then download it and, if needed, right-click in your file manager and make it executable, then click or double-click.

          There are other options, like flathub, or your distro repo, but those are more complicated.

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          @halla @JenJen I honestly strongly advise against doing this. Inskcape is available inside Mint repositories. It is the simplest and safest method to install it.

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          • madagascar_sky@mastodon.socialM madagascar_sky@mastodon.social

            @JenJen @not_a_label

            sudo - do as super user
            apt - app management tool
            install - install
            inkscape - the program to install

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            @JenJen

            Was this from the PPA or are the repos up to date these days for 1.4.3?

            @not_a_label @Madagascar_Sky

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            • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

              @halla @JenJen I honestly strongly advise against doing this. Inskcape is available inside Mint repositories. It is the simplest and safest method to install it.

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              @Sylvhem @JenJen Um... Sure, sure, sure. But you forgot to tell Jen_Jen how to actually install stuff from the Mint repos, preferably without using the terminal?

              Without telling people how to use those "repos", and without telling people why you are advising against using the project-provided, signed, safe download, you're just confusing people.

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              • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

                @halla @JenJen I honestly strongly advise against doing this. Inskcape is available inside Mint repositories. It is the simplest and safest method to install it.

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                @Sylvhem @halla

                I would like to reinforce the recommendation against using the AppImage for production use. We in the Inkscape project are well aware of the limitations and have it as a format useful for testing fixes while in development, and as a last ditch effort when everything else fails for your BSD or linux distro. etc.

                @JenJen

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                • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

                  @Sylvhem @halla

                  I would like to reinforce the recommendation against using the AppImage for production use. We in the Inkscape project are well aware of the limitations and have it as a format useful for testing fixes while in development, and as a last ditch effort when everything else fails for your BSD or linux distro. etc.

                  @JenJen

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                  @doctormo @Sylvhem @JenJen Yeah, well... But try to explain that trying flathub gives this:

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                  • halla@kde.socialH halla@kde.social

                    @doctormo @Sylvhem @JenJen Yeah, well... But try to explain that trying flathub gives this:

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                    @doctormo @Sylvhem @JenJen What software manager? Where do you look in that software manager. What is a flatpakref file? I've used Linux since 1993, and _I do not know_.

                    If the store has a button that says "Install", it should install. Not give instructions.

                    (Mind, I do not use Mint, but Kubuntu, but this was supposed to be universal, wasn't it?)

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                    • jenjen@mastodon.artJ jenjen@mastodon.art

                      EDIT: I DID IT
                      I did a terminal!

                      Opening inkscape now - thank you!

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                      @JenJen

                      Edit: now that you have it working we should be providing the most unhinged ways possible to install it right?


                      go to the Inkscape website and download the snap package and "just" run it.

                      (You should probably do the local package manager thing really but I like providing more options, and sometimes there is a delay before the package repo gets the newest versions)

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                      • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

                        @JenJen

                        Was this from the PPA or are the repos up to date these days for 1.4.3?

                        @not_a_label @Madagascar_Sky

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                        @doctormo @JenJen @not_a_label

                        Can you please vet if this advice is still true? I think the first comment is the right approach.

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                        • soulsource@mastodon.gamedev.placeS soulsource@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @JenJen @serebit It's an interface to the Debian Package Manager.

                          The Debian Package Manager is the preferred way to manage software package installations on Mint. There are other interfaces for it too. Most desktops also come with a graphical interface for it, I just don't know by heart how that GUI tool is called on Mint.

                          If you are coming from Windows: `apt` is basically the Debian/Ubuntu/Mint/... equivalent to Windows' `winget` command.

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                          @JenJen @serebit In general, if you are wondering what a certain command does, it doesn't hurt to check the manual:
                          `man <command>`

                          So, to learn about `apt`, it would be
                          `man apt`.

                          There is also the `info` command, which sometimes contains more, or better structured information than the manual page.

                          And to search for a keyword in manual page's short descriptions, for instance if you don't know a command name, you can use the `apropos` command.

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                          • jenjen@mastodon.artJ jenjen@mastodon.art

                            EDIT: I DID IT
                            I did a terminal!

                            Opening inkscape now - thank you!

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                            @JenJen Congrats! Using the terminal isn't as daunting as it's made out to be, imho. A little patience and attention is all that's really needed.

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                            • halla@kde.socialH halla@kde.social

                              @doctormo @Sylvhem @JenJen What software manager? Where do you look in that software manager. What is a flatpakref file? I've used Linux since 1993, and _I do not know_.

                              If the store has a button that says "Install", it should install. Not give instructions.

                              (Mind, I do not use Mint, but Kubuntu, but this was supposed to be universal, wasn't it?)

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                              @halla

                              I thought Ubuntu flavours were hostile to Flatpaks, preferring snaps. I don't recommend snap inkscape either btw; but this is why we do the PPA so folks in ubuntu land can get access to the latest stable release without waiting for flatpak, snap, or some other distribution disaster. Sorry about all this.

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                              Though thinking about it, it sounds like mint broke with ubuntu and went to flatpaks? Curious.

                              @Sylvhem @JenJen

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                              • jenjen@mastodon.artJ jenjen@mastodon.art

                                EDIT: I DID IT
                                I did a terminal!

                                Opening inkscape now - thank you!

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                                @JenJen Opening a terminal while hungover and getting stuff done … you’re halfway to professional system administration there.

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                                • madagascar_sky@mastodon.socialM madagascar_sky@mastodon.social

                                  @doctormo @JenJen @not_a_label

                                  Can you please vet if this advice is still true? I think the first comment is the right approach.

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                                  @Madagascar_Sky

                                  For so long as the distro's app manager is functioning correctly. Yes. If your app manager has gone mad, like @halla reported above, then all bets are off. Personally I'd try and figure out what's going on with that break as it sounds pretty serious.

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                                  • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

                                    @halla

                                    I thought Ubuntu flavours were hostile to Flatpaks, preferring snaps. I don't recommend snap inkscape either btw; but this is why we do the PPA so folks in ubuntu land can get access to the latest stable release without waiting for flatpak, snap, or some other distribution disaster. Sorry about all this.

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                                    Though thinking about it, it sounds like mint broke with ubuntu and went to flatpaks? Curious.

                                    @Sylvhem @JenJen

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                                    @doctormo @Sylvhem @JenJen I don't know... But I do know that to give people instructions instead of a download button that works is... Not gonna work. I do dislike appimage myself, and especially probono, but...

                                    Don't expect people to know what an "app manager is".

                                    They need a link on a website that shows all the apps and that will do the job, end of story.

                                    Any instructions needed are too many.

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                                    • halla@kde.socialH halla@kde.social

                                      @Sylvhem @JenJen Um... Sure, sure, sure. But you forgot to tell Jen_Jen how to actually install stuff from the Mint repos, preferably without using the terminal?

                                      Without telling people how to use those "repos", and without telling people why you are advising against using the project-provided, signed, safe download, you're just confusing people.

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                                      @halla I did it just there: https://eldritch.cafe/@Sylvhem/116353800945407986. And yes, I didn’t explain why it’s better to use the software provided by your OS in this post because @JenJen was simply asking how to install Inkscape. She didn’t ask for an impromptu course on the subject of software management.

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                                      • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

                                        @halla I did it just there: https://eldritch.cafe/@Sylvhem/116353800945407986. And yes, I didn’t explain why it’s better to use the software provided by your OS in this post because @JenJen was simply asking how to install Inkscape. She didn’t ask for an impromptu course on the subject of software management.

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                                        @Sylvhem But you didn't explain how to install inkscape?

                                        Or did fedi's federation just not show me your tutorial?

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                                        • jenjen@mastodon.artJ jenjen@mastodon.art

                                          EDIT: I DID IT
                                          I did a terminal!

                                          Opening inkscape now - thank you!

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                                          @JenJen
                                          Congratulations ! 👏

                                          And so it begins. I give you 9 months before you start compiling your own kernel.

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