EDIT: I DID ITI did a terminal!

[doctormo@floss.social]

@JenJen

Was this from the PPA or are the repos up to date these days for 1.4.3?

@not_a_label @Madagascar_Sky

[halla@kde.social]

@Sylvhem @JenJen Um... Sure, sure, sure. But you forgot to tell Jen_Jen how to actually install stuff from the Mint repos, preferably without using the terminal?

Without telling people how to use those "repos", and without telling people why you are advising against using the project-provided, signed, safe download, you're just confusing people.

[doctormo@floss.social]

@Sylvhem @halla

I would like to reinforce the recommendation against using the AppImage for production use. We in the Inkscape project are well aware of the limitations and have it as a format useful for testing fixes while in development, and as a last ditch effort when everything else fails for your BSD or linux distro. etc.

@JenJen

[halla@kde.social]

@doctormo @Sylvhem @JenJen Yeah, well... But try to explain that trying flathub gives this:

[halla@kde.social]

@doctormo @Sylvhem @JenJen What software manager? Where do you look in that software manager. What is a flatpakref file? I've used Linux since 1993, and _I do not know_.

If the store has a button that says "Install", it should install. Not give instructions.

(Mind, I do not use Mint, but Kubuntu, but this was supposed to be universal, wasn't it?)

[mindpersephone@spookygirl.boo]

@JenJen

Edit: now that you have it working we should be providing the most unhinged ways possible to install it right?


go to the Inkscape website and download the snap package and "just" run it.

(You should probably do the local package manager thing really but I like providing more options, and sometimes there is a delay before the package repo gets the newest versions)

[madagascar_sky@mastodon.social]

@doctormo @JenJen @not_a_label

Can you please vet if this advice is still true? I think the first comment is the right approach.

(www.reddit.com)

[soulsource@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@JenJen @serebit In general, if you are wondering what a certain command does, it doesn't hurt to check the manual:
`man <command>`

So, to learn about `apt`, it would be
`man apt`.

There is also the `info` command, which sometimes contains more, or better structured information than the manual page.

And to search for a keyword in manual page's short descriptions, for instance if you don't know a command name, you can use the `apropos` command.

[catdad@ohai.social]

@JenJen Congrats! Using the terminal isn't as daunting as it's made out to be, imho. A little patience and attention is all that's really needed.

[doctormo@floss.social]

@halla

I thought Ubuntu flavours were hostile to Flatpaks, preferring snaps. I don't recommend snap inkscape either btw; but this is why we do the PPA so folks in ubuntu land can get access to the latest stable release without waiting for flatpak, snap, or some other distribution disaster. Sorry about all this.

Inkscape 1.4.3 - GNU/Linux : Ubuntu : ppa | Inkscape

None - Personal Package Archive for Ubuntu

(inkscape.org)

Though thinking about it, it sounds like mint broke with ubuntu and went to flatpaks? Curious.

@Sylvhem @JenJen

[chris_evelyn@fedi.chris-evelyn.de]

@JenJen Opening a terminal while hungover and getting stuff done … you’re halfway to professional system administration there.

[doctormo@floss.social]

@Madagascar_Sky

For so long as the distro's app manager is functioning correctly. Yes. If your app manager has gone mad, like @halla reported above, then all bets are off. Personally I'd try and figure out what's going on with that break as it sounds pretty serious.

[halla@kde.social]

@doctormo @Sylvhem @JenJen I don't know... But I do know that to give people instructions instead of a download button that works is... Not gonna work. I do dislike appimage myself, and especially probono, but...

Don't expect people to know what an "app manager is".

They need a link on a website that shows all the apps and that will do the job, end of story.

Any instructions needed are too many.

[sylvhem@eldritch.cafe]

@halla I did it just there: https://eldritch.cafe/@Sylvhem/116353800945407986. And yes, I didn’t explain why it’s better to use the software provided by your OS in this post because @JenJen was simply asking how to install Inkscape. She didn’t ask for an impromptu course on the subject of software management.

[halla@kde.social]

@Sylvhem But you didn't explain how to install inkscape?

Or did fedi's federation just not show me your tutorial?

[zekovski@pouet.chapril.org]

@JenJen
Congratulations !

And so it begins. I give you 9 months before you start compiling your own kernel.

[doctormo@floss.social]

@halla

That is unfortunately not in our aegis to fix. Ultimately the only solution would be to remove all downloads from the website and force people to use their operating system properly. Much like most android apps are not available as a download, only via google store. Much as it annoys me personally.

[sylvhem@eldritch.cafe]

@halla I told her to look into her software center and asked her if she knew what it was. That’s the starting point.

[jenjen@mastodon.art]

Henlo mastodon from my linux laptop

I think Im gonna dare to touch the terminal again tonight

I want to download notepad ++

Is that something I can search on the terminal like I did with the inkscape thing?

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