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When the bubble bursts, do you think the people who grifted for generative "AI" are going to be given a scarlet letter and kicked out of the industry?

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  • bweller@mstdn.socialB bweller@mstdn.social

    @sauc3 definitely just the next scam

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    @bweller

    I am sure you are right, but how much better would things be if they were given the boot?

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    • sauc3@hachyderm.ioS sauc3@hachyderm.io

      @bweller

      I am sure you are right, but how much better would things be if they were given the boot?

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      @sauc3 no change is my 2 cents

      homeostasis and local minima, etc etc

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      • sauc3@hachyderm.ioS sauc3@hachyderm.io

        When the bubble bursts, do you think the people who grifted for generative "AI" are going to be given a scarlet letter and kicked out of the industry? Or do you think they will just move on to the next scam, like nothing happened?

        I suspect it's the latter, but it sure would be nice if all those people who went super hard for the con suffered some kind of consequence for that decision.

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        @sauc3 remember all the consequences faced by grifters in NFTs, predatory lending, crypto, the Panama papers…

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        • sauc3@hachyderm.ioS sauc3@hachyderm.io

          When the bubble bursts, do you think the people who grifted for generative "AI" are going to be given a scarlet letter and kicked out of the industry? Or do you think they will just move on to the next scam, like nothing happened?

          I suspect it's the latter, but it sure would be nice if all those people who went super hard for the con suffered some kind of consequence for that decision.

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          @sauc3 I mean it's not like anything was done with the blockchain and cryptogrifters either.

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          • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

            @sauc3 I mean it's not like anything was done with the blockchain and cryptogrifters either.

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            @oblomov

            I can't tell if you are joking or not, but the Venn diagram of people going the hardest for generative "AI" and cryptobros is shockingly close to a perfect circle.

            Imagine how much better things would be if all those people were kicked out? Although now that I am re-reading what you wrote, I think you are suggesting there was no consequence for them then, and there will probably be none when the bubble bursts too.

            Sorry for the lack of original understanding!

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            • sauc3@hachyderm.ioS sauc3@hachyderm.io

              @oblomov

              I can't tell if you are joking or not, but the Venn diagram of people going the hardest for generative "AI" and cryptobros is shockingly close to a perfect circle.

              Imagine how much better things would be if all those people were kicked out? Although now that I am re-reading what you wrote, I think you are suggesting there was no consequence for them then, and there will probably be none when the bubble bursts too.

              Sorry for the lack of original understanding!

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              @sauc3 I'm not joking, I'm pointing out that these grifters just jump from grift to grift with great ease and no damage. Society has failed to build antibodies against this kind of behavior.

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              • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                @sauc3 I'm not joking, I'm pointing out that these grifters just jump from grift to grift with great ease and no damage. Society has failed to build antibodies against this kind of behavior.

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                @sauc3 (sorry, finished writing before your edit, yes, we are in agreement)

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                • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                  @sauc3 I'm not joking, I'm pointing out that these grifters just jump from grift to grift with great ease and no damage. Society has failed to build antibodies against this kind of behavior.

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                  @oblomov

                  Sorry, I realized that after I wrote my original reply. I agree wholeheartedly!

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                  • sauc3@hachyderm.ioS sauc3@hachyderm.io

                    @oblomov

                    Sorry, I realized that after I wrote my original reply. I agree wholeheartedly!

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                    @sauc3 let's cry on each other's shoulder for the pain of seeing things happen and knowing how they will end yet being unable to do anything to stop it.

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                    • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                      @sauc3 (sorry, finished writing before your edit, yes, we are in agreement)

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                      @oblomov

                      Yeah, to quote the old line from Shadowrun, "null sweat, chummer"! I just didn't think through fully what you were originally suggesting.

                      Hope you have an awesome day!

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                      • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                        @sauc3 let's cry on each other's shoulder for the pain of seeing things happen and knowing how they will end yet being unable to do anything to stop it.

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                        @oblomov

                        I believe in the Butterly effect, and I think if enough of us reject generative "AI" that we can win.

                        Maybe I'm just a foolish optimist, but I prefer to have hope and will for a better future.

                        For now, I'm off to go tilt at more windmills 🙂

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                        • sauc3@hachyderm.ioS sauc3@hachyderm.io

                          @oblomov

                          I believe in the Butterly effect, and I think if enough of us reject generative "AI" that we can win.

                          Maybe I'm just a foolish optimist, but I prefer to have hope and will for a better future.

                          For now, I'm off to go tilt at more windmills 🙂

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                          @sauc3 I'm more of a fatalist in the sense that I believe things go in cycles, so the world as a whole will recover at some point in the future, but I can't guarantee it'll happen in my lifetime —but I'm not going to let that get in the way of doing my own thing without getting dragged into these grifts 8-)

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                          • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                            @sauc3 I'm more of a fatalist in the sense that I believe things go in cycles, so the world as a whole will recover at some point in the future, but I can't guarantee it'll happen in my lifetime —but I'm not going to let that get in the way of doing my own thing without getting dragged into these grifts 8-)

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                            @oblomov

                            I can certainly respect that position!

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                            • sauc3@hachyderm.ioS sauc3@hachyderm.io

                              When the bubble bursts, do you think the people who grifted for generative "AI" are going to be given a scarlet letter and kicked out of the industry? Or do you think they will just move on to the next scam, like nothing happened?

                              I suspect it's the latter, but it sure would be nice if all those people who went super hard for the con suffered some kind of consequence for that decision.

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                              @sauc3 Either the next scam, or government bailout, or both.

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                              • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                                @sauc3 Either the next scam, or government bailout, or both.

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                                @courtcan

                                Oh, I didn't even think about a bailout, which seems super obvious to happen at least in the United States of America.

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                                • sauc3@hachyderm.ioS sauc3@hachyderm.io

                                  When the bubble bursts, do you think the people who grifted for generative "AI" are going to be given a scarlet letter and kicked out of the industry? Or do you think they will just move on to the next scam, like nothing happened?

                                  I suspect it's the latter, but it sure would be nice if all those people who went super hard for the con suffered some kind of consequence for that decision.

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                                  @sauc3 one or two might get the boot but no one important. see the crypto and pivot to video grifts

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                                  • sauc3@hachyderm.ioS sauc3@hachyderm.io

                                    @oblomov

                                    I can certainly respect that position!

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                                    @sauc3 @oblomov

                                    I loved your conversation, thank you.

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