If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly.
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"[...] the European Payments Initiative (EPI) and the EuroPA Alliance signed a landmark agreement to build a pan-European interoperable payment network covering 130 million users across 13 countries. The system, built around the digital wallet Wero, aims to let Europeans pay and transfer money across borders without touching a single American network."
Europe's $24 Trillion Breakup With Visa and Mastercard
A 130-million-user payment system backed by 16 major banks just launched to challenge Visa/mastercard
European Business Magazine (europeanbusinessmagazine.com)
@jwildeboer I just hope there will come some real alternatives in the Nordics, as #Vipps is a piece of sh.... Especially for users on #degoogled Android. It so often requires a full reset and re-login to activate it because it believes the non-rooted phone is rooted. This is the only banking app I have used which behaves like that. The issue has been reported and ignored by them multiple times.
I've also worked in the bank where Vipps originates from ... That also is of great concern, as the working morale in the division I was in was depressing. I hope the branching out of Vipps to a separate company has helped. But given the ignorance to fixing issues, I have strong doubts. Adding more features which enables user tracking and moving towards a marketplace app has way more attention.
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"[...] the European Payments Initiative (EPI) and the EuroPA Alliance signed a landmark agreement to build a pan-European interoperable payment network covering 130 million users across 13 countries. The system, built around the digital wallet Wero, aims to let Europeans pay and transfer money across borders without touching a single American network."
Europe's $24 Trillion Breakup With Visa and Mastercard
A 130-million-user payment system backed by 16 major banks just launched to challenge Visa/mastercard
European Business Magazine (europeanbusinessmagazine.com)
@jwildeboer Let's hope it's mobile implementation will be work on degoogled androids and linux phones.
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"[...] the European Payments Initiative (EPI) and the EuroPA Alliance signed a landmark agreement to build a pan-European interoperable payment network covering 130 million users across 13 countries. The system, built around the digital wallet Wero, aims to let Europeans pay and transfer money across borders without touching a single American network."
Europe's $24 Trillion Breakup With Visa and Mastercard
A 130-million-user payment system backed by 16 major banks just launched to challenge Visa/mastercard
European Business Magazine (europeanbusinessmagazine.com)
(And to all the reply-guys with their "Yes, but what about my de-googled phone?" You are the 0.001% of users. You made your choice to use a setup of which you knew it will not always work. I hope you can switch to a bank that supports your setup. In my personal opinion the decoupling from the Master/Visa duopoly is however far more important.)
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@jwildeboer I just hope there will come some real alternatives in the Nordics, as #Vipps is a piece of sh.... Especially for users on #degoogled Android. It so often requires a full reset and re-login to activate it because it believes the non-rooted phone is rooted. This is the only banking app I have used which behaves like that. The issue has been reported and ignored by them multiple times.
I've also worked in the bank where Vipps originates from ... That also is of great concern, as the working morale in the division I was in was depressing. I hope the branching out of Vipps to a separate company has helped. But given the ignorance to fixing issues, I have strong doubts. Adding more features which enables user tracking and moving towards a marketplace app has way more attention.
@dazo @jwildeboer Vipps MobilePay is part of it, so probably not.
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"[...] the European Payments Initiative (EPI) and the EuroPA Alliance signed a landmark agreement to build a pan-European interoperable payment network covering 130 million users across 13 countries. The system, built around the digital wallet Wero, aims to let Europeans pay and transfer money across borders without touching a single American network."
Europe's $24 Trillion Breakup With Visa and Mastercard
A 130-million-user payment system backed by 16 major banks just launched to challenge Visa/mastercard
European Business Magazine (europeanbusinessmagazine.com)
Jetzt wenn das Ding noch am Computer funktionieren würde, ohne Handy…
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"[...] the European Payments Initiative (EPI) and the EuroPA Alliance signed a landmark agreement to build a pan-European interoperable payment network covering 130 million users across 13 countries. The system, built around the digital wallet Wero, aims to let Europeans pay and transfer money across borders without touching a single American network."
Europe's $24 Trillion Breakup With Visa and Mastercard
A 130-million-user payment system backed by 16 major banks just launched to challenge Visa/mastercard
European Business Magazine (europeanbusinessmagazine.com)
@jwildeboer Ye pushing this Wero as something that "[does not touch] a single American network" is really sloppy. Wero can only run on devices with Android or Ios! Why doesn't anybody higher up in the food chain seem to understand this?
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Jetzt wenn das Ding noch am Computer funktionieren würde, ohne Handy…
@m_berberich Da musst du bei deiner Bank fragen ob sie das in ihrem Web Angebot einbinden können.
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@jwildeboer Ye pushing this Wero as something that "[does not touch] a single American network" is really sloppy. Wero can only run on devices with Android or Ios! Why doesn't anybody higher up in the food chain seem to understand this?
@quite I didn't say that. I quoted an article. Please direct your argument towards the authors, not to me?
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If in the EU. Try WERO and tell your bank how to make it better if you truly care about an alternative to PayPal and the Visa/Master duopoly. Don’t expect the perfect solution. Understand that alternatives are never better or perfect from the get-go but that we need to tell them through using them how to become better and better. Be a pioneer, not a follower
Wero - Digital payment wallet
Experience fast and secure digital payments with Wero’s wallet, enabling you to send and receive money between bank accounts in under 10 seconds.
(wero-wallet.eu)
@jwildeboer Ist mal wieder Henne/Ei. Bei meinen üblichen Shops (Galaxus/Otto/etc.) kann ich da nicht mit Zahlen.
Habe auf der Seite nix gefunden: GIbts da ne Liste wer das akzeptiert?
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@jwildeboer Ist mal wieder Henne/Ei. Bei meinen üblichen Shops (Galaxus/Otto/etc.) kann ich da nicht mit Zahlen.
Habe auf der Seite nix gefunden: GIbts da ne Liste wer das akzeptiert?
@guacamole Bei Galaxus/Otto geht auch IBAN/SEPA. Wero ist ja "nur" ein bequemer Layer um SEPA Überweisungen zu vereinfachen. Anbindung der POS (Point Of Sale) Zahlungssysteme soll in diesem Jahr kräftig forciert werden.
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@m_berberich Da musst du bei deiner Bank fragen ob sie das in ihrem Web Angebot einbinden können.
Dann müßte aber jeder Shop für jede Bank einen extra Button haben? Klingt wenig praktikabel.
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(And to all the reply-guys with their "Yes, but what about my de-googled phone?" You are the 0.001% of users. You made your choice to use a setup of which you knew it will not always work. I hope you can switch to a bank that supports your setup. In my personal opinion the decoupling from the Master/Visa duopoly is however far more important.)
The decoupling is very valuable. I hope in the future they will provide that service for people who really really really don't do banking via mobile phone, also.
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