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  3. I suspect most people outside of the UK won't have heard about the post office scandal, but it seems highly relevant to learn about now (given *waves* this):

I suspect most people outside of the UK won't have heard about the post office scandal, but it seems highly relevant to learn about now (given *waves* this):

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  • rradczewski@hachyderm.ioR rradczewski@hachyderm.io

    @pietkuip how so?

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    @rradczewski
    The belief in "the computer". The way people's entire lives and families were destroyed. The way all signs were disregarded at all levels, also by the judiciary.

    And finally, parliamentary inquests.

    (I am not deeply knowledgeable about either scandal. But I keep warning Swedes that want more hunting after fraud in social benefits, also by coupling different computer systems, algorithms etc.)

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    • craig_groeschel@zeroes.caC craig_groeschel@zeroes.ca

      @rradczewski
      I really enjoyed the docudrama Mr. Bates vs. The Post Office. It was shown on PBS Masterpiece Theater over here.

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      @craig_groeschel @rradczewski Thank you! I'm watching it tonight.
      PBS Masterpiece Theater
      The Real Story of Mr. Bates vs the Post Office
      https://www.pbs.org/show/the-real-story-of-mr-bates-vs-the-post-office/
      also, besides the documentary, there's an acclaimed PBS TV series, with top-notch actors, also about the whole affair. (THOUSANDS of people were unfairly attacked, sued and smeared.)
      https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/shows/mr-bates-vs-the-post-office/
      #History #Injustice #Law

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      • rradczewski@hachyderm.ioR rradczewski@hachyderm.io

        I suspect most people outside of the UK won't have heard about the post office scandal, but it seems highly relevant to learn about now (given *waves* this):

        For over 15 years, the software post offices in the UK had to use contained severe bugs, particular in accounting, that everyone at Fujitsu/horizon and the post blissfully ignored. Over 900 (!!!) postmasters were sentenced for alleged theft and fraud, some went to jail, some committed suicide. All because the software was shit and everyone who could do something about it didn't care and swept it under the rug.

        Everything, including how it was uncovered, about this seems bizarre and Kafkaesque, but we better prepare for it to happen more often.

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        People seem to have learned NOTHING from the Post Office Horizon Scandal. The AI bubble is PREDICATED on software productivity being prioritised over anything being any good. PEOPLE WILL DIE.

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        @rradczewski It is a heart breaking story and those responsible have never been made to pay. The little guys who ran the post offices got shafted because big tech screwed up big time

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        • rradczewski@hachyderm.ioR rradczewski@hachyderm.io

          I suspect most people outside of the UK won't have heard about the post office scandal, but it seems highly relevant to learn about now (given *waves* this):

          For over 15 years, the software post offices in the UK had to use contained severe bugs, particular in accounting, that everyone at Fujitsu/horizon and the post blissfully ignored. Over 900 (!!!) postmasters were sentenced for alleged theft and fraud, some went to jail, some committed suicide. All because the software was shit and everyone who could do something about it didn't care and swept it under the rug.

          Everything, including how it was uncovered, about this seems bizarre and Kafkaesque, but we better prepare for it to happen more often.

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          Conor Mc Bride (@pigworker@types.pl)

          People seem to have learned NOTHING from the Post Office Horizon Scandal. The AI bubble is PREDICATED on software productivity being prioritised over anything being any good. PEOPLE WILL DIE.

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          types.pl (types.pl)

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          @rradczewski Read an article about this ones (tech related). Quite baffling indeed.
          Mind-blowing how they didn't take responsibility for the software flaws and destroyed human lives instead.

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          • ronnylam@mastodon.socialR ronnylam@mastodon.social

            @tezoatlipoca @deech @rradczewski recommended!

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            @ronnylam @tezoatlipoca @deech @rradczewski Absolutely recommended.

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            • rradczewski@hachyderm.ioR rradczewski@hachyderm.io

              I suspect most people outside of the UK won't have heard about the post office scandal, but it seems highly relevant to learn about now (given *waves* this):

              For over 15 years, the software post offices in the UK had to use contained severe bugs, particular in accounting, that everyone at Fujitsu/horizon and the post blissfully ignored. Over 900 (!!!) postmasters were sentenced for alleged theft and fraud, some went to jail, some committed suicide. All because the software was shit and everyone who could do something about it didn't care and swept it under the rug.

              Everything, including how it was uncovered, about this seems bizarre and Kafkaesque, but we better prepare for it to happen more often.

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              Conor Mc Bride (@pigworker@types.pl)

              People seem to have learned NOTHING from the Post Office Horizon Scandal. The AI bubble is PREDICATED on software productivity being prioritised over anything being any good. PEOPLE WILL DIE.

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              types.pl (types.pl)

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              @rradczewski And it's still dragging on.

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              • tezoatlipoca@mas.toT tezoatlipoca@mas.to

                @deech @rradczewski There's a miniseries with some big name UK actors in it that was quite engrossing. Toby Jones as Mr. Bates vs. The Post Office - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Bates_vs_The_Post_Office

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                @tezoatlipoca @deech @rradczewski Yep, on the continent this was streamed on ARTE last year. I enjoy most of UK style series, as a Software Developer this one in particular.

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                • rradczewski@hachyderm.ioR rradczewski@hachyderm.io

                  I suspect most people outside of the UK won't have heard about the post office scandal, but it seems highly relevant to learn about now (given *waves* this):

                  For over 15 years, the software post offices in the UK had to use contained severe bugs, particular in accounting, that everyone at Fujitsu/horizon and the post blissfully ignored. Over 900 (!!!) postmasters were sentenced for alleged theft and fraud, some went to jail, some committed suicide. All because the software was shit and everyone who could do something about it didn't care and swept it under the rug.

                  Everything, including how it was uncovered, about this seems bizarre and Kafkaesque, but we better prepare for it to happen more often.

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                  British Post Office scandal - Wikipedia

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                  Conor Mc Bride (@pigworker@types.pl)

                  People seem to have learned NOTHING from the Post Office Horizon Scandal. The AI bubble is PREDICATED on software productivity being prioritised over anything being any good. PEOPLE WILL DIE.

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                  @rradczewski Private Eye worked to expose it for years https://www.private-eye.co.uk/special-reports/justice-lost-in-the-post

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                  • thebuell@techhub.socialT thebuell@techhub.social

                    Weird how no one has been jailed for causing this mess .

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                    @TheBuell This is exactly where AI is taking us. No one will take any responsibility for the errors created by AI and there will be no accountability.

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                    • rradczewski@hachyderm.ioR rradczewski@hachyderm.io

                      @ftp_alun I can imagine people getting very excited that their fraud detection is getting better. That, and the inquiries also seem to suggest a good amount of racism and prejudice against postmasters.

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                      @rradczewski @ftp_alun Didn't the investigators get a bonus for every conviction?

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