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A retired British primary school teacher with a British passport and a valid visa was shackled, chained and detained for six weeks by ICE in the US while on holiday.

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  • slyborg@ohai.socialS slyborg@ohai.social

    @publictorsten You’re astonished that a British man with a British passport was traveling? He wasn’t expecting to re-enter the US, it’s absurd that after being forced to because of Canadian customs he is then incarcerated in the US when he was literally TRYING to leave it.

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    @slyborg You've added some details to the story there.

    It's possible to leave the US this way, but your car rental company has to do some paper work beforehand. Since this was not the case, he could not enter Canada with his car. Why would that be so? The most plausible explanation: He did want to re-enter the US.

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    • linza@kamu.socialL linza@kamu.social

      @GossiTheDog Retired British primary school teacher ignores warning of other white European tourists locked up by literal Nazis and goes on holiday to the place where the Nazis are locking people up*

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      @Linza
      “I knew it was happening but I didn’t think it would happen to ME”
      @GossiTheDog

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      • publictorsten@mastodon.socialP publictorsten@mastodon.social

        @slyborg You've added some details to the story there.

        It's possible to leave the US this way, but your car rental company has to do some paper work beforehand. Since this was not the case, he could not enter Canada with his car. Why would that be so? The most plausible explanation: He did want to re-enter the US.

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        @publictorsten It’s stated in the article that he planned to return to the UK to retire, partly out of frustration with being unable to secure permanent residency. I remain astonished that we’re arguing over his itinerary when the issue is that he was imprisoned for more than a month over an expired visa with no criminal history. Deporting the man immediately would have been harsh but understandable, locking him up AND his wife with valid paperwork is inexplicable.

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          A retired British primary school teacher with a British passport and a valid visa was shackled, chained and detained for six weeks by ICE in the US while on holiday.

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          ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

          Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

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          https://mastodon.world/@davidnjoku/116108172571148252

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          • slyborg@ohai.socialS slyborg@ohai.social

            @publictorsten It’s stated in the article that he planned to return to the UK to retire, partly out of frustration with being unable to secure permanent residency. I remain astonished that we’re arguing over his itinerary when the issue is that he was imprisoned for more than a month over an expired visa with no criminal history. Deporting the man immediately would have been harsh but understandable, locking him up AND his wife with valid paperwork is inexplicable.

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            @slyborg Maybe I should be happy that other people finally begin to see the inexplicable. Like this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_Alcatraz

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              A retired British primary school teacher with a British passport and a valid visa was shackled, chained and detained for six weeks by ICE in the US while on holiday.

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              ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

              Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

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              @GossiTheDog How is it possible to elect such a fjott-nisse? Is this really the will of the US ppl? Tragic

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                A retired British primary school teacher with a British passport and a valid visa was shackled, chained and detained for six weeks by ICE in the US while on holiday.

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                ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

                Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

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                @GossiTheDog @Gargron never travel to the US, even if they somehow are allowed to elect a new president. 77 million of them voted for this.

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  A retired British primary school teacher with a British passport and a valid visa was shackled, chained and detained for six weeks by ICE in the US while on holiday.

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                  ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

                  Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

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                  @GossiTheDog "I was aware" she said. And then decided to visit a dangerous backward third-world shit-hole country anyway.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    A retired British primary school teacher with a British passport and a valid visa was shackled, chained and detained for six weeks by ICE in the US while on holiday.

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                    ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

                    Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

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                    the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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                    @GossiTheDog They go to the USA, with a tense immigration situation, with an expired work visa. Dumb.

                    Other cases referred are someone doing domestic work to pay her holidays under a touristic visa (work without permit), other come as tourist with tattoo equipment (to work the ICE supposed, as I would have supposed too), and other overstayed their tourist visa. No wonder they have problems.

                    The Schengen agreement in Europe has made people dumb?

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      A retired British primary school teacher with a British passport and a valid visa was shackled, chained and detained for six weeks by ICE in the US while on holiday.

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                      ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

                      Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

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                      @GossiTheDog

                      The USA have always been the Land of the Shackled. An oligarchy where the rich owned people one way or another (and raped minors they considered their property). And the shackle should be their official symbol, not an eagle.

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        A retired British primary school teacher with a British passport and a valid visa was shackled, chained and detained for six weeks by ICE in the US while on holiday.

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                        ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

                        Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

                        favicon

                        the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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                        @GossiTheDog So what did Karen do wrong? Being married to her husband who's VISA expired so they wanted to enter Canada?

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                        • publictorsten@mastodon.socialP publictorsten@mastodon.social

                          @slyborg You've added some details to the story there.

                          It's possible to leave the US this way, but your car rental company has to do some paper work beforehand. Since this was not the case, he could not enter Canada with his car. Why would that be so? The most plausible explanation: He did want to re-enter the US.

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                          @publictorsten @slyborg And why had his wife Karen been arrested six weeks? Because she was his wife?

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                          • realsiegfried@troet.cafeR realsiegfried@troet.cafe

                            @publictorsten @slyborg And why had his wife Karen been arrested six weeks? Because she was his wife?

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                            @realSiegfried @slyborg I'm not defending ICE. But i cannot be shocked by illegal detentions anymore.

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                            • ericmartin@mastodon.socialE ericmartin@mastodon.social

                              @GossiTheDog

                              US citizen here. Why would anyone from outside this fucked up country run by a racist, fascist, government, knowing that there is a very real possibility of this happening, come here for any reason?

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                              @EricMartin @GossiTheDog they thought their whiteness would keep them safe

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                              • placandeker@infosec.exchangeP placandeker@infosec.exchange

                                @GossiTheDog They go to the USA, with a tense immigration situation, with an expired work visa. Dumb.

                                Other cases referred are someone doing domestic work to pay her holidays under a touristic visa (work without permit), other come as tourist with tattoo equipment (to work the ICE supposed, as I would have supposed too), and other overstayed their tourist visa. No wonder they have problems.

                                The Schengen agreement in Europe has made people dumb?

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                                @placandeker @GossiTheDog "Having problems" is something else than being put into a gulag.

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                                • publictorsten@mastodon.socialP publictorsten@mastodon.social

                                  @realSiegfried @slyborg I'm not defending ICE. But i cannot be shocked by illegal detentions anymore.

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                                  @realSiegfried BTW: There is no reason to treat the husband this way, too. But they do it to thousands every day.

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                                  • sparekonto@social.vivaldi.netS sparekonto@social.vivaldi.net

                                    @GossiTheDog How is it possible to elect such a fjott-nisse? Is this really the will of the US ppl? Tragic

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                                    @sparekonto @GossiTheDog from the viewpoint of this particular Native American, the USA has always been about white supremacy, land grabs, genocide, racial caste systems, and stepping on the necks of people deemed inferior -
                                    Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, immigrant groups, natives, all of it. Under Trump it has come out of the closet as it were and become acceptable to be a racist prick. But it never went away.

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                                    • publictorsten@mastodon.socialP publictorsten@mastodon.social

                                      @slyborg You've added some details to the story there.

                                      It's possible to leave the US this way, but your car rental company has to do some paper work beforehand. Since this was not the case, he could not enter Canada with his car. Why would that be so? The most plausible explanation: He did want to re-enter the US.

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                                      @publictorsten @slyborg

                                      I've traveled with rental cars across the Canadian border and it was never an issue. Now under Trump it is. It's fucking ridiculous.

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                                        @joaquim_satolep @GossiTheDog

                                        Canadians see this map as accurate.

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