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  3. first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    close-ups of the component side (well, the side with more components)

    originals: 1 2

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    EM9305 is an em|bleu microcontroller in QFN

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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      I'm not yet sure how I'll open it up. I don't have a hacksaw (somehow... I should fix that), so my options are somewhat limited: it's either cracking or melting plastic. from what others have done I know I there's plastic welding all around the joined region.

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      @whitequark ultrasonic knives got quite cheap and are excellent for very precise plastic cutting

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      • timonsku@mastodon.socialT timonsku@mastodon.social

        @whitequark ultrasonic knives got quite cheap and are excellent for very precise plastic cutting

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        @timonsku I should get one!

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          close-ups of the component side (well, the side with more components)

          originals: 1 2

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          @whitequark ooh, i love these tiny SMT components. very delightful to look at

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            okay, i've extracted the firmware-bearing parts. this is a tiny 45 mAh battery. (part of the lettering was torn off by the glue it was attached with)

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            @whitequark this is starting to remind me of the bit in A. K. Dewdney's _Planiverse_ where the two-dimensional people have built a two-dimensional electronic computer (well, an adding machine) and because it's rather difficult to make wires cross each other in two dimensions, every single logic gate in the contraption has its own battery

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              @timonsku I should get one!

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              @whitequark @timonsku really braindead tip: search "ultrasonic kinfe" or "ultrasonic knjfe", because AliExpress censors the word "knife" in listings 🙃

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              • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                @whitequark @timonsku really braindead tip: search "ultrasonic kinfe" or "ultrasonic knjfe", because AliExpress censors the word "knife" in listings 🙃

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                @gsuberland @whitequark @timonsku

                Or add the word 'kitchen'.

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  ok so this would be the JTAG pins

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                  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                    @whitequark @timonsku really braindead tip: search "ultrasonic kinfe" or "ultrasonic knjfe", because AliExpress censors the word "knife" in listings 🙃

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                    @gsuberland @timonsku lmao

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      ok so this would be the JTAG pins

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                      also, here's a close-up of the markings on the tiny WLCSP between the BGA and QFN

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                      • geoffl@mastodon.me.ukG geoffl@mastodon.me.uk

                        @gsuberland @whitequark @timonsku

                        Or add the word 'kitchen'.

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                        @gsuberland @whitequark @timonsku

                        Ali Express is now AI express

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                        • geoffl@mastodon.me.ukG geoffl@mastodon.me.uk

                          @gsuberland @whitequark @timonsku

                          Ali Express is now AI express

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                          @gsuberland @whitequark @timonsku

                          No capacity for alt text right now. Soz.

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                          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                            EM9305 is an em|bleu microcontroller in QFN

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                            @whitequark Calling an ARC CPU industry standard is very funny to me

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                            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                              ok so this would be the JTAG pins

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                              @whitequark Great to see that you got yourself a #LEGO #SmartBrick. Curious to know what set you got yourself. And eben more curious if you can get JTAG working... or find the relevant test pins. Yesterday, I started sniffing the SPI bus. Unfortunately, the ASIC Chip Select pin was not identified in the test pad matrix when I last looked up published schematics.

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                              • maehw@chaos.socialM maehw@chaos.social

                                @whitequark Great to see that you got yourself a #LEGO #SmartBrick. Curious to know what set you got yourself. And eben more curious if you can get JTAG working... or find the relevant test pins. Yesterday, I started sniffing the SPI bus. Unfortunately, the ASIC Chip Select pin was not identified in the test pad matrix when I last looked up published schematics.

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                                @whitequark You'll probably also try to power it with a DC power supply instead of the battery, right?

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                                  @whitequark And (checking the datasheet) apparently a log2() accelerator? That seems like an oddly-specific thing to accelerate.

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                                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                    okay, i've extracted the firmware-bearing parts. this is a tiny 45 mAh battery. (part of the lettering was torn off by the glue it was attached with)

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                                    @whitequark oooh looking forward to the self-igniting lego made with this

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                                    • vfig@mastodon.gamedev.placeV vfig@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      @whitequark oooh looking forward to the self-igniting lego made with this

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                                      @vfig bullshit. even if you shorted a 45 mAh battery absolutely nothing of sort would happen. try it if you don't believe me

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                                      • maehw@chaos.socialM maehw@chaos.social

                                        @whitequark Great to see that you got yourself a #LEGO #SmartBrick. Curious to know what set you got yourself. And eben more curious if you can get JTAG working... or find the relevant test pins. Yesterday, I started sniffing the SPI bus. Unfortunately, the ASIC Chip Select pin was not identified in the test pad matrix when I last looked up published schematics.

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                                        @maehw do you know what the WLCSPs are?

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                                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                          also, here's a close-up of the markings on the tiny WLCSP between the BGA and QFN

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                                          @whitequark someone had identified it as a Winbond SPI flash (to be confirmed, I guess).

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