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  3. first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    took it apart. there's a sort of a plastic "carrier" that gets manufacured first, then inserted into the final package that's welded shut

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    okay, i've extracted the firmware-bearing parts. this is a tiny 45 mAh battery. (part of the lettering was torn off by the glue it was attached with)

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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic. the injecton molding remains impeccable, at least for this specific piece (I know about their recent QC issues elsewhere)

      it's hard for me to look at the positively microscopic (I am literally using a microscope to look at it) "Li-Ion" lettering and think of anything but "showing off!"

      (treehouse doesn't let me attach the full size images, you can grab them here: front, side)

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      @whitequark I feel this way about Nerf guns. Every one I’ve ever taken apart I’ve come away with “they’re charging WHAT for this?”

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        okay, i've extracted the firmware-bearing parts. this is a tiny 45 mAh battery. (part of the lettering was torn off by the glue it was attached with)

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        close-ups of the component side (well, the side with more components)

        originals: 1 2

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          close-ups of the component side (well, the side with more components)

          originals: 1 2

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          EM9305 is an em|bleu microcontroller in QFN

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            I'm not yet sure how I'll open it up. I don't have a hacksaw (somehow... I should fix that), so my options are somewhat limited: it's either cracking or melting plastic. from what others have done I know I there's plastic welding all around the joined region.

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            @whitequark ultrasonic knives got quite cheap and are excellent for very precise plastic cutting

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            • timonsku@mastodon.socialT timonsku@mastodon.social

              @whitequark ultrasonic knives got quite cheap and are excellent for very precise plastic cutting

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              @timonsku I should get one!

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                close-ups of the component side (well, the side with more components)

                originals: 1 2

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                @whitequark ooh, i love these tiny SMT components. very delightful to look at

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  okay, i've extracted the firmware-bearing parts. this is a tiny 45 mAh battery. (part of the lettering was torn off by the glue it was attached with)

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                  @whitequark this is starting to remind me of the bit in A. K. Dewdney's _Planiverse_ where the two-dimensional people have built a two-dimensional electronic computer (well, an adding machine) and because it's rather difficult to make wires cross each other in two dimensions, every single logic gate in the contraption has its own battery

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    @timonsku I should get one!

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                    @whitequark @timonsku really braindead tip: search "ultrasonic kinfe" or "ultrasonic knjfe", because AliExpress censors the word "knife" in listings 🙃

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                    • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                      @whitequark @timonsku really braindead tip: search "ultrasonic kinfe" or "ultrasonic knjfe", because AliExpress censors the word "knife" in listings 🙃

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                      @gsuberland @whitequark @timonsku

                      Or add the word 'kitchen'.

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                        ok so this would be the JTAG pins

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                        • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                          @whitequark @timonsku really braindead tip: search "ultrasonic kinfe" or "ultrasonic knjfe", because AliExpress censors the word "knife" in listings 🙃

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                          @gsuberland @timonsku lmao

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                          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                            ok so this would be the JTAG pins

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                            also, here's a close-up of the markings on the tiny WLCSP between the BGA and QFN

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                            • geoffl@mastodon.me.ukG geoffl@mastodon.me.uk

                              @gsuberland @whitequark @timonsku

                              Or add the word 'kitchen'.

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                              @gsuberland @whitequark @timonsku

                              Ali Express is now AI express

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                              • geoffl@mastodon.me.ukG geoffl@mastodon.me.uk

                                @gsuberland @whitequark @timonsku

                                Ali Express is now AI express

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                                @gsuberland @whitequark @timonsku

                                No capacity for alt text right now. Soz.

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                                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                  EM9305 is an em|bleu microcontroller in QFN

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                                  @whitequark Calling an ARC CPU industry standard is very funny to me

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                                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                    ok so this would be the JTAG pins

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                                    @whitequark Great to see that you got yourself a #LEGO #SmartBrick. Curious to know what set you got yourself. And eben more curious if you can get JTAG working... or find the relevant test pins. Yesterday, I started sniffing the SPI bus. Unfortunately, the ASIC Chip Select pin was not identified in the test pad matrix when I last looked up published schematics.

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                                    • maehw@chaos.socialM maehw@chaos.social

                                      @whitequark Great to see that you got yourself a #LEGO #SmartBrick. Curious to know what set you got yourself. And eben more curious if you can get JTAG working... or find the relevant test pins. Yesterday, I started sniffing the SPI bus. Unfortunately, the ASIC Chip Select pin was not identified in the test pad matrix when I last looked up published schematics.

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                                      @whitequark You'll probably also try to power it with a DC power supply instead of the battery, right?

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                                        @whitequark And (checking the datasheet) apparently a log2() accelerator? That seems like an oddly-specific thing to accelerate.

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                                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                          okay, i've extracted the firmware-bearing parts. this is a tiny 45 mAh battery. (part of the lettering was torn off by the glue it was attached with)

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                                          @whitequark oooh looking forward to the self-igniting lego made with this

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