For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose.

[zeddiria@mastodon.social]

@codemonkeymike You are generally right, of course, i also hate that Microsoft / Apple is doing this.

But there are still easy and not forbidden ways to install Win11 on older Machines and there is also a (kinda costy) Windows 10 LTSC version that is supported till 2032.

Also i have strong feelings against people who say that Linux makes an old system fast. That is often not the case, and after hearing this everywhere people keep posting frustated on our unix-board about their core2duo & co

[mikesiegel@infosec.exchange]

@codemonkeymike I've worked with these folks and the first step is re-image them with Linux https://worldcomputerexchange.org/

[librefaso@hostux.social]

@codemonkeymike

Hi.
What's that "computer upcycle project" ?

[fenouilla_systema@mathstodon.xyz]

@Aphelie_epi_dor
Moreover, Tux is cuuute!

[elizafox@social.treehouse.systems]

@codemonkeymike ... unless it has a shitty wifi chip... or an unsupported sound chip... then good luck :p. It's a paperweight at that point, unless you run an ancient OS.

[zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org]

@purrperl @thegardendude @codemonkeymike
NixOS doesn't require traditional scripting. Instead of writing imperative shell scripts to install packages or configure services, you define your entire system's desired state in a declarative configuration file using the Nix language.

This means you declare what your system should look like (e.g., "I want Firefox and a web server enabled"), and NixOS handles the "how" automatically. This approach provides powerful benefits like reproducibility, atomic upgrades, and easy rollbacks, replacing ad-hoc scripts with a single, version-controllable source of truth.

There is no other way..

[zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org]

@codemonkeymike Fedora Atomic version for the win, really.
Not only the upgrades are rollback but it's immutable> there get to know containers!
They can hack your container or a tool of it but not the host at all.

All tools are in their Podman under the hood container form named Toolbox ( an easy way to manage tools in a container with just 1 command)
As running all tools NOT exposed to internet in a container, for other tools THAT USE INTERNET CONNECTION or others you can take Flatpak > on fedora they are Sandboxed.

[zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org]

@tschenkel @vwestlife @codemonkeymike Dual boot a linux on it!
As base, if you want more install DistroBox and put another Distro Linux on it on top.
On this pc I use hypervisor to run my Linux with greatest part of SSD but others as refurbished iMac's are all Linux from boot.

[fasnix@fe.disroot.org]

@Metamere @thegardendude

Instaed of Ubuntu, check out Solus, which is pretty well maintained and doesn't need to hide.

I use it as my main distro since ~ a year and like it.

[swestfisher@social.themoto.network]

@codemonkeymike , after I retired a few years ago I switched my personal computers to Linux. I do still have one with Win 11 for a couple of programs that only work on it. I wish FreeBSD would get better laptop support, I've always been more comfortable in BSD, HP-UX, AIX, etc. than System V stuff.

[zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org]

@m1rk0 @codemonkeymike you are full of bloat and AI knows everything you do. That is the argument.

[desantis@mastodon.bida.im]

@thegardendude @codemonkeymike I work in research and a lot of new converts use either Ubuntu or Linux Mint. Personally, I use Fedora/Budgie, before that Fedora Gnome. As another has already mentioned, check and see if the distro has a “Live” version, meaning you can burn the ISO to portable storage and try the O.S. before committing.

[codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org]

@Elizafox true but that's few and far between in my experience. But yes this does happen.

[codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org]

@nukleos exactly! I've felt this for a while, but finally put words to it

[codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org]

@candela I did a 32 bir challenge a couple years ago and did Debian 12 32bit and it was okay. But yeah. Now adays it's pretty much just antix

[codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org]

@m1rk0 the full story makes windows look even worse. Trust me. I've worked with thousands of people over decades.

But if you're happy with windows. Awesome. I'm not here to convince people to switch.

[candela@mastodon.nl]

@codemonkeymike it's how it goes, even for Linux, that I think should be all around available for all old hardware. That is the point, to breathe new life in old hardware.

[numodular@c.im]

@Zeddiria I have similar concerns. I went from MX21.3 to MX25, and noticed more RAM usage. It makes a difference on an 8th gen laptop.

The zram option upon install for MX25, helped tho. More should know about this, because of RAM/hard drive gouging going on now, and more recent distros like MX25, have updated drivers that help even 8th gen puters.

[jakob_thoboell@kirche.social]

@candela I played arround with bunsenlabs, which is a lightweight distro based on Debian. @codemonkeymike

[candela@mastodon.nl]

@jakob_thoboell @codemonkeymike i’ll take a look at that. I never heard of bunsenlabs though