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Proton Mail now supports post-quantum encryption.

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  • protonprivacy@mastodon.socialP protonprivacy@mastodon.social

    UPDATE: We've temporarily disabled the opt-in to this feature due to an unexpected issue in Proton Drive for Windows. The team is working on a fix and will re-enable it soon.

    Proton Mail now supports post-quantum encryption. While quantum computers can’t break today’s encryption yet, preparing early matters. Data encrypted today could be targeted in the future.

    You can enable post-quantum protection for new encrypted emails, on any plan, including free.

    Learn more: https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption

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    @protonprivacy The activation popup says it doesn't work with "old app versions", so, which app version is needed? So I don't accidentally activate it before the update is available to me. 😅

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    • protonprivacy@mastodon.socialP protonprivacy@mastodon.social

      UPDATE: We've temporarily disabled the opt-in to this feature due to an unexpected issue in Proton Drive for Windows. The team is working on a fix and will re-enable it soon.

      Proton Mail now supports post-quantum encryption. While quantum computers can’t break today’s encryption yet, preparing early matters. Data encrypted today could be targeted in the future.

      You can enable post-quantum protection for new encrypted emails, on any plan, including free.

      Learn more: https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption

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      @protonprivacy why so complicatet? Opt in!? Tuta made it for all automatically!

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      • bryangreyson@social.tchncs.deB bryangreyson@social.tchncs.de

        @protonprivacy The activation popup says it doesn't work with "old app versions", so, which app version is needed? So I don't accidentally activate it before the update is available to me. 😅

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        @BryanGreyson @protonprivacy At the very least, one of my devices is on Proton Mail 7.9.5 (16929) and another is on 7.9.6 (16983) on Android. Both continue to work after enabling PQC.

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        • me@joshuastrobl.socialM me@joshuastrobl.social

          @BryanGreyson @protonprivacy At the very least, one of my devices is on Proton Mail 7.9.5 (16929) and another is on 7.9.6 (16983) on Android. Both continue to work after enabling PQC.

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          @me

          Ah, alrighty, thank you!
          Would still be a good info for the blog and/or popup, @protonprivacy.

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          • protonprivacy@mastodon.socialP protonprivacy@mastodon.social

            UPDATE: We've temporarily disabled the opt-in to this feature due to an unexpected issue in Proton Drive for Windows. The team is working on a fix and will re-enable it soon.

            Proton Mail now supports post-quantum encryption. While quantum computers can’t break today’s encryption yet, preparing early matters. Data encrypted today could be targeted in the future.

            You can enable post-quantum protection for new encrypted emails, on any plan, including free.

            Learn more: https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption

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            @protonprivacy Awesome big thanks 😁 ❤️ 💚 🙏

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            • protonprivacy@mastodon.socialP protonprivacy@mastodon.social

              UPDATE: We've temporarily disabled the opt-in to this feature due to an unexpected issue in Proton Drive for Windows. The team is working on a fix and will re-enable it soon.

              Proton Mail now supports post-quantum encryption. While quantum computers can’t break today’s encryption yet, preparing early matters. Data encrypted today could be targeted in the future.

              You can enable post-quantum protection for new encrypted emails, on any plan, including free.

              Learn more: https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption

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              @protonprivacy i am too dumb for this.

              i mean i understand why rsa is secure atm because multiplying numbers is more easy than factorizing a product.

              but hell, is there an eli5 on post quantum star trek what dafuq?!

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              • protonprivacy@mastodon.socialP protonprivacy@mastodon.social

                UPDATE: We've temporarily disabled the opt-in to this feature due to an unexpected issue in Proton Drive for Windows. The team is working on a fix and will re-enable it soon.

                Proton Mail now supports post-quantum encryption. While quantum computers can’t break today’s encryption yet, preparing early matters. Data encrypted today could be targeted in the future.

                You can enable post-quantum protection for new encrypted emails, on any plan, including free.

                Learn more: https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption

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                @protonprivacy

                Well done and thank you 👍
                Hopefully you'll be rolling out PQC for all other Proton services in the near-ish future.

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                • jo69@mastodon.socialJ jo69@mastodon.social

                  @protonprivacy why so complicatet? Opt in!? Tuta made it for all automatically!

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                  @jo69

                  Based on years of experience with @protonprivacy ... they take baby steps, to ensure nothing breaks. But they also give access to new features to users earlier as well. So if you want to join the fun earlier, you can opt-in.

                  Visionary users (not an available plan any more) gets access much earlier as well, and can often opt-in there too. When Proton opens up for opt-in at this stage, more publicly, they've decided to expand the scope further.

                  I expect that PQC will be enabled by default in 6-12 months - and then after some more time (2-5 years?) you can no longer create non-PQC keys at all manually.

                  Proton have far over 100 million users to care for. If something broke badly in the first transition, it would end up very bad for both Proton and all their users. This way they do more a controlled way of enabling new features while reducing the risks as well as lowering the consequences if something bad happens.

                  While I understand the annoyance of enabling it manually now, it the very end I'm pretty sure you'll see it will become the default with time.

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                  • nemo@mas.toN nemo@mas.to

                    @protonprivacy Awesome big thanks 😁 ❤️ 💚 🙏

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                    @ml #goodnews Proton goes quantum 😄 haaha ❤️ 💚 🙏

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                    • nemo@mas.toN nemo@mas.to

                      @ml #goodnews Proton goes quantum 😄 haaha ❤️ 💚 🙏

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                      @nemo Yeah, already enabled!

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                      • ml@social.mitexleo.oneM ml@social.mitexleo.one

                        @nemo Yeah, already enabled!

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                        @ml 😁 👍 Great!

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                        • protonprivacy@mastodon.socialP protonprivacy@mastodon.social

                          UPDATE: We've temporarily disabled the opt-in to this feature due to an unexpected issue in Proton Drive for Windows. The team is working on a fix and will re-enable it soon.

                          Proton Mail now supports post-quantum encryption. While quantum computers can’t break today’s encryption yet, preparing early matters. Data encrypted today could be targeted in the future.

                          You can enable post-quantum protection for new encrypted emails, on any plan, including free.

                          Learn more: https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption

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                          @protonprivacy when ProtonMail will be FBI proof?

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                          • protonprivacy@mastodon.socialP protonprivacy@mastodon.social

                            UPDATE: We've temporarily disabled the opt-in to this feature due to an unexpected issue in Proton Drive for Windows. The team is working on a fix and will re-enable it soon.

                            Proton Mail now supports post-quantum encryption. While quantum computers can’t break today’s encryption yet, preparing early matters. Data encrypted today could be targeted in the future.

                            You can enable post-quantum protection for new encrypted emails, on any plan, including free.

                            Learn more: https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption

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                            @protonprivacy FINALLY..

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                            • hacknorris@mstdn.socialH hacknorris@mstdn.social

                              @protonprivacy FINALLY..

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                              @protonprivacy edit: nope

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                              • protonprivacy@mastodon.socialP protonprivacy@mastodon.social

                                UPDATE: We've temporarily disabled the opt-in to this feature due to an unexpected issue in Proton Drive for Windows. The team is working on a fix and will re-enable it soon.

                                Proton Mail now supports post-quantum encryption. While quantum computers can’t break today’s encryption yet, preparing early matters. Data encrypted today could be targeted in the future.

                                You can enable post-quantum protection for new encrypted emails, on any plan, including free.

                                Learn more: https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption

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                                @protonprivacy

                                #alttext

                                Mail update
                                Post-Quantum Cryptography
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                                • hacknorris@mstdn.socialH hacknorris@mstdn.social

                                  @protonprivacy edit: nope

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                                  @hacknorris @protonprivacy

                                  #alttext

                                  Paccount.proton.me
                                  Encryption and keys
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                                  • protonprivacy@mastodon.socialP protonprivacy@mastodon.social

                                    UPDATE: We've temporarily disabled the opt-in to this feature due to an unexpected issue in Proton Drive for Windows. The team is working on a fix and will re-enable it soon.

                                    Proton Mail now supports post-quantum encryption. While quantum computers can’t break today’s encryption yet, preparing early matters. Data encrypted today could be targeted in the future.

                                    You can enable post-quantum protection for new encrypted emails, on any plan, including free.

                                    Learn more: https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption

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                                    @protonprivacy So which exactly iOS and Android apps version is adding support of this new feature?

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                                    • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

                                      @jo69

                                      Based on years of experience with @protonprivacy ... they take baby steps, to ensure nothing breaks. But they also give access to new features to users earlier as well. So if you want to join the fun earlier, you can opt-in.

                                      Visionary users (not an available plan any more) gets access much earlier as well, and can often opt-in there too. When Proton opens up for opt-in at this stage, more publicly, they've decided to expand the scope further.

                                      I expect that PQC will be enabled by default in 6-12 months - and then after some more time (2-5 years?) you can no longer create non-PQC keys at all manually.

                                      Proton have far over 100 million users to care for. If something broke badly in the first transition, it would end up very bad for both Proton and all their users. This way they do more a controlled way of enabling new features while reducing the risks as well as lowering the consequences if something bad happens.

                                      While I understand the annoyance of enabling it manually now, it the very end I'm pretty sure you'll see it will become the default with time.

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                                      @dazo @jo69 @protonprivacy also, in this specific case, enabling post-quantum also disables your previous recovery phrase.

                                      Enabling it by default might make a user lose access to their account, if they don’t generate a new one after switching it. Which is less probable if it’s automatic; easier to ignore the warnings, etc.

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                                      • protonprivacy@mastodon.socialP protonprivacy@mastodon.social

                                        UPDATE: We've temporarily disabled the opt-in to this feature due to an unexpected issue in Proton Drive for Windows. The team is working on a fix and will re-enable it soon.

                                        Proton Mail now supports post-quantum encryption. While quantum computers can’t break today’s encryption yet, preparing early matters. Data encrypted today could be targeted in the future.

                                        You can enable post-quantum protection for new encrypted emails, on any plan, including free.

                                        Learn more: https://proton.me/blog/introducing-post-quantum-encryption

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                                        @protonprivacy

                                        From "How to enable post-quantum protection in Proton Mail"[1]

                                        > Enable post-quantum protection
                                        > 1. Sign in to account.proton.me and open your account settings.
                                        > 2. Select Encryption and keys from the sidebar.
                                        > 3. Under Post-quantum protection, click Enable post-quantum protection.

                                        Where is the Post-quantum protection section?

                                        [1] https://proton.me/support/mail-post-quantum-protection

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                                        • utf_7@mastodon.socialU utf_7@mastodon.social

                                          @protonprivacy i am too dumb for this.

                                          i mean i understand why rsa is secure atm because multiplying numbers is more easy than factorizing a product.

                                          but hell, is there an eli5 on post quantum star trek what dafuq?!

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                                          @utf_7 @protonprivacy we know how to break apart multiplied numbers (RSA) quickly since the 90s, but so far the hardware to do that was theoretical. Recently multiple independent groups have made progress on improving the algorithm and improving the hardware. We're probably still years away, but transitions like these take decades, and we want data to be secure for at least a decade, too, so it is time to act.

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