Tridge has responded on the rsync vibe disaster

[chiffchaff@tech.lgbt]

@TheOneDoc @davidgerard I think understanding the underlyimg cause enough to chart a future for rsync, and what might happen to other projects and how to react is probably more important a task for randos on the internet(*) than playing St Peter.

() this us the category *I, at least, fall into here.

[phooky@hexa.club]

@hsza @davidgerard @Li man my feed is just thread after thread of people lining up and pledging to be a good rsync maintainer

[david_chisnall@infosec.exchange]

@davidgerard @sharpcheddargoblin

I remember reading the exchanges between him and Linus about the BitKeeper thing and being very glad I didn't have to work with either of them.

[cstross@wandering.shop]

@davidgerard It seems to me that this highlights that the real problem isn't a code quality problem, it's a project management problem: he's old and would rather sail his boat and he's trying to maintain rsync on his own and (TLDR: don't wanna, let's just AI it instead).

It's this XKCD strip in a nutshell: https://xkcd.com/2347/

[ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.uk]

@robinsyl @davidgerard unfortunately in this case, I think he did, then took it back later (I don't know why he took it back)

rsync - Wikipedia

(en.wikipedia.org)

[nohhue@mastodon.social]

@davidgerard

> for the people saying things like “I’m a PhD from xyz uni and I’m telling your LLMs are just stochastic tools that make everything up and the world will fall apart if you use them”, **I’m here to tell you that you are out of date. **

...Ah, there it is. The thing that makes it clear you shouldn't pay attention to him and should find a slop-free version of rsync. The "it's inevitable" weasle-wording.

[bloognoo@retro.pizza]

@hugoestr @Netzblockierer @davidgerard
Vim classsic is basically the final non-slop vim in maintenance mode and evi is the last non-slop vim with an eye to continuing development of the project and adding new ideas and cool stuff, just not via AI slop. I use Evi as my daily driver
Evi's headed by @mrmasterkeyboard
Vim Classic by
@drew

[dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org]

@cstross
Its this, but also probably because ego... he couldn't bear to hand it off? not totally clear. Still, handing it off to a team of 3-4 people would have been the right thing to do. Sail your boat! i get it!
@davidgerard

[wbud@tech.lgbt]

@davidgerard benevolent dictator seems to be steering away from benevolence.

[poprox@social.lol]

@davidgerard plagiarizers hate it so much when they get called out for plagiarizing. lazy and shameful, they've completely discredited themselves as a competent and trustworthy "developer". not even deserving of the name "developer" when they're generating and relying on plagiarized content.

[maddiem4@raphus.social]

@millihertz @davidgerard yep. Which makes rsync actually quite a nice example of why that line of thinking is bait.

[mavu@mastodon.social]

@davidgerard to be fair: we **are** all dumb haters. We just have good reasons to.
Also, many reactions *are* over the top.

- Mourn the project
- tell the unpaid-hobbyist maintainer you would have preferred he not use AI because of (well known reasons) **in a friendly manner**
- fork the last known good commit and step up to maintain the project or hope someone else will.

Unless of course, they are being an ass about it. Then have at it.

[adriano@lile.cl]

@davidgerard The openrsync dig is cheap, and complaining about having to work instead of retiring only begs the question "why did you not do the work of finding a new maintainer, then?", but the part about being raged on I guess doesn't deserve this. He very well could have been dogpiled and that's nasty.

[dgold@goblin.technology]

@davidgerard it doesn't even make sense on it's own terms.

If the point was to entirely switch to a python test codebase, why was he using the worst (according to LLMshills) system for that purpose?

To then take that and release the thing in a wholly broken form to the public?

[davidgerard@circumstances.run]

@nohhue I also found the specific post he's replying to

[regendans@todon.eu]

@ShadowJonathan @davidgerard Yesterday I read on Mastodon that gokr-rsync was uploaded to Debian unstable/sid https://packages.debian.org/sid/gokr-rsync #debian #rsync

[mrs_malice@mastodon.world]

@davidgerard “excuse me for using these fascistic tools of class warfare but i simply must get back to SAILING” lmao pretty fuckin clear which side he’s on eh

[steely_glint@chaos.social]

@dlakelan @cstross @davidgerard But also the load on maintainers has gone up partly, but not entirely, due to AI generated vulnerability reports.

His response seems to have been to fight AI with AI.

[gryphonmyers@mastodon.social]

@davidgerard "Oh, btw, I also did a PhD in CS" congratulations

[jaredwhite@indieweb.social]

@davidgerard "nobody actually knows if human intelligence is just finer grained stochastic prediction as well"

WTAF 🫪