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  3. The world’s solar capacity reached 1,419 gigawatts in 2023, way beyond any predictions.

The world’s solar capacity reached 1,419 gigawatts in 2023, way beyond any predictions.

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    The world’s solar capacity reached 1,419 gigawatts in 2023, way beyond any predictions. 1 gigawatt = power for a medium sized city

    ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG martin@libera.siteM mikestok@mstdn.caM aanee@mastodon.onlineA mewsleah@meow.socialM 13 Replies Last reply
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    • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

      The world’s solar capacity reached 1,419 gigawatts in 2023, way beyond any predictions. 1 gigawatt = power for a medium sized city

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      @infobeautiful

      As a word of caution, however, fossil fuel emissions continue to rise, although it’s somewhat minted lately. I think people should remember that we have to consider cumulative of facts cumulative effects of chopping down 40% of all the natural world for industrial agriculture, which not only releases all the carbon from destroyed greenery, but twice as much is released when you destroy the soil.

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        @infobeautiful

        As a word of caution, however, fossil fuel emissions continue to rise, although it’s somewhat minted lately. I think people should remember that we have to consider cumulative of facts cumulative effects of chopping down 40% of all the natural world for industrial agriculture, which not only releases all the carbon from destroyed greenery, but twice as much is released when you destroy the soil.

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        @infobeautiful

        Herbicides, pesticides, fertilizer and soil compaction, as well as erosion from modern farming have obliterated 40% of the world’s carbon and hydrological capacity as well as it’s fertility.

        Industrial Farms are a biological waste land of toxic chemicals, fossil fuel emissions, herbicides, fungicides and pesticides.

        All this to make corporations massively wealthier, while destroying the product, actual productive capacity of the land to sustain both the our climate and us

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        • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

          The world’s solar capacity reached 1,419 gigawatts in 2023, way beyond any predictions. 1 gigawatt = power for a medium sized city

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          @Information Is Beautiful Power for several hours a day. In winter time even weeks without power, sometimes.
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          • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

            The world’s solar capacity reached 1,419 gigawatts in 2023, way beyond any predictions. 1 gigawatt = power for a medium sized city

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            @talexb and the imbecile running Ontario is all in on imaginary nuclear technology (SMRs)

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            • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

              The world’s solar capacity reached 1,419 gigawatts in 2023, way beyond any predictions. 1 gigawatt = power for a medium sized city

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              @infobeautiful A basic trend curve would have given a better prediction.

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              • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                The world’s solar capacity reached 1,419 gigawatts in 2023, way beyond any predictions. 1 gigawatt = power for a medium sized city

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                @infobeautiful how big is a medium sized city, in population terms?

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                • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                  The world’s solar capacity reached 1,419 gigawatts in 2023, way beyond any predictions. 1 gigawatt = power for a medium sized city

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                  @infobeautiful why were people predicting a /downslope/ for so long, seems like a bizarre forecast. “Oh, solar rates have been climbing modestly for the last few years but I’m sure it’s just a passing fad…”

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                  • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                    The world’s solar capacity reached 1,419 gigawatts in 2023, way beyond any predictions. 1 gigawatt = power for a medium sized city

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                    @infobeautiful the IEA is famous for denying what cannot be denied until the very last minute.

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                    • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                      The world’s solar capacity reached 1,419 gigawatts in 2023, way beyond any predictions. 1 gigawatt = power for a medium sized city

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                      @infobeautiful This might explain why I'm reading about prices of PV electricity sold to the grid plummeting (as there is barely any storage capacity).

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                      • martin@libera.siteM martin@libera.site
                        @Information Is Beautiful Power for several hours a day. In winter time even weeks without power, sometimes.
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                        @martin ??? Solar plus wind plus batteries provide power for free, reducing need for fossil fuel dependence by 80% or 100% in some places, what's not to like?

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                        • aanee@mastodon.onlineA aanee@mastodon.online

                          @infobeautiful A basic trend curve would have given a better prediction.

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                          @aanee @infobeautiful while I'm 100% on board with you directionally, I suppose the counter argument would be that exponential growth has to tap out eventually, is just a question of when it turns into an S-curve.

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                          • tartley@fosstodon.orgT tartley@fosstodon.org

                            @aanee @infobeautiful while I'm 100% on board with you directionally, I suppose the counter argument would be that exponential growth has to tap out eventually, is just a question of when it turns into an S-curve.

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                            @tartley @infobeautiful True enough, but I still think the expectations in the graph are extremely pessimistic.

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                            • tartley@fosstodon.orgT tartley@fosstodon.org

                              @aanee @infobeautiful while I'm 100% on board with you directionally, I suppose the counter argument would be that exponential growth has to tap out eventually, is just a question of when it turns into an S-curve.

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                              @tartley @aanee @infobeautiful that's what the predictions assumed. But nobody expected the Chinese inquisition.

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                              • aanee@mastodon.onlineA aanee@mastodon.online

                                @tartley @infobeautiful True enough, but I still think the expectations in the graph are extremely pessimistic.

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                                @aanee @infobeautiful oh yes, you are absolutely right! Extremely well funded and insidious thumbs on the scales from the fossil fuel lobby.

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                                • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                  The world’s solar capacity reached 1,419 gigawatts in 2023, way beyond any predictions. 1 gigawatt = power for a medium sized city

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                                  @infobeautiful

                                  Soon this will need a log scale…

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                                  • tartley@fosstodon.orgT tartley@fosstodon.org

                                    @aanee @infobeautiful while I'm 100% on board with you directionally, I suppose the counter argument would be that exponential growth has to tap out eventually, is just a question of when it turns into an S-curve.

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                                    @tartley @aanee @infobeautiful It will turn into an S-curve sometime after the full electrification of Africa, South and South-East Asia and Latin America.

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                                    • tartley@fosstodon.orgT tartley@fosstodon.org

                                      @martin ??? Solar plus wind plus batteries provide power for free, reducing need for fossil fuel dependence by 80% or 100% in some places, what's not to like?

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                                      @Jonathan Hartley Nope. You need 100% backup(from about 50% of Ren share). Fossil backup.
                                      That's why it's not cheap. and will not be. Never.

                                      #^https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunkelflaute
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                                      • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

                                        @infobeautiful This might explain why I'm reading about prices of PV electricity sold to the grid plummeting (as there is barely any storage capacity).

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                                        @dzwiedziu @infobeautiful storage capacity is artifically restrained. We have the tech to store electricity cheap and with a one-time low investment and minimal maintenance sosts, we have the millenia old tech to store heat, yet more and more legislatures are -lobbied- bribed to make cheap perpetual solutions illegal.

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                                        • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                                          @dzwiedziu @infobeautiful storage capacity is artifically restrained. We have the tech to store electricity cheap and with a one-time low investment and minimal maintenance sosts, we have the millenia old tech to store heat, yet more and more legislatures are -lobbied- bribed to make cheap perpetual solutions illegal.

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                                          @ohir
                                          [citation needed]

                                          @infobeautiful

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