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rsync was basically done until the maintainer discovered vibecoding

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  • hailey@hails.orgH hailey@hails.org

    rsync was basically done until the maintainer discovered vibecoding

    lunadragofelis@void.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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    @hailey wait, is rsync slop now?
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      @glitchcake @hailey who doesn't ?

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      • lunadragofelis@void.lgbtL lunadragofelis@void.lgbt
        @hailey wait, is rsync slop now?
        hsza@social.tudbut.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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        @LunaDragofelis @hailey apparently so

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        • hailey@hails.orgH hailey@hails.org

          rsync was basically done until the maintainer discovered vibecoding

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          @hailey I hope Unison gets a unidirectional mode & also a package for Termux & Chimera Linux. I would probably do it myself if I knew how to package software.

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          • hailey@hails.orgH hailey@hails.org

            rsync was basically done until the maintainer discovered vibecoding

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            @hailey Oh FFS. Pinning time.

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            • hailey@hails.orgH hailey@hails.org

              rsync was basically done until the maintainer discovered vibecoding

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              @hailey@hails.org it hurts in places I cannot soothe

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              • hailey@hails.orgH hailey@hails.org

                rsync was basically done until the maintainer discovered vibecoding

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                @hailey oh god

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                • panda@pandas.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @tarix29 @hailey

                  Yes please!!

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                  • hailey@hails.orgH hailey@hails.org

                    rsync was basically done until the maintainer discovered vibecoding

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                    #43

                    @hailey Yikes!

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                    • hailey@hails.orgH hailey@hails.org

                      rsync was basically done until the maintainer discovered vibecoding

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                      @hailey we had things that worked as intended. Now we have AI and start reinventing the wheel.

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                      • hailey@hails.orgH hailey@hails.org

                        rsync was basically done until the maintainer discovered vibecoding

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                        @hailey noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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                        • speaktrap@mastodon.com.plS speaktrap@mastodon.com.pl

                          @hailey Gonna lock the version on all my systems (altough Debian, Void and FreeBSD might do that too and I don't even have to)

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                          @speaktrap @hailey What is the last slop-free version?

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                          • odd@mstdn.socialO odd@mstdn.social

                            @hailey oh boy. Well I hope #Gentoo's no AI policy is working against upstream vibecoding as well.

                            But what madness to have to check whether a fundamental piece of software is still trustworthy in the future.

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                            @odd @hailey

                            Given a choice between freezing all packages before vibe coding was "discovered" and packaging upstream releases, the former is not fully practical. The Gentoo social contract requires following council mandated policies about how one interacts with the Gentoo project, but doesn't control what other projects merge.

                            The kernel is slopcoded too, but we can't exactly do without that, now can we? Well, okay, we recently added experimental GNU Hurd support. 😛

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                            • eschwartz@fosstodon.orgE eschwartz@fosstodon.org

                              @odd @hailey

                              Given a choice between freezing all packages before vibe coding was "discovered" and packaging upstream releases, the former is not fully practical. The Gentoo social contract requires following council mandated policies about how one interacts with the Gentoo project, but doesn't control what other projects merge.

                              The kernel is slopcoded too, but we can't exactly do without that, now can we? Well, okay, we recently added experimental GNU Hurd support. 😛

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                              @odd @hailey

                              That doesn't mean we have to put up with horrid slop, it just means that blanket forbidding all LLM assisted software is in practice unenforceable outside our community (where we cannot analyze PRs and require assertion of non-use).

                              Inevitably the result of slop is that the software deteriorates and doesn't work, and Gentoo may respond by freezing updates or removing it entirely (see chardet being frozen).

                              We do what we can, and we make our disapproval clear regarding the rest.

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                              • eschwartz@fosstodon.orgE eschwartz@fosstodon.org

                                @odd @hailey

                                That doesn't mean we have to put up with horrid slop, it just means that blanket forbidding all LLM assisted software is in practice unenforceable outside our community (where we cannot analyze PRs and require assertion of non-use).

                                Inevitably the result of slop is that the software deteriorates and doesn't work, and Gentoo may respond by freezing updates or removing it entirely (see chardet being frozen).

                                We do what we can, and we make our disapproval clear regarding the rest.

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                                @odd @hailey

                                I don't expect non-buggy versions of rsync to be dropped in favor of slopcoded ones.

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                                • eschwartz@fosstodon.orgE eschwartz@fosstodon.org

                                  @odd @hailey

                                  I don't expect non-buggy versions of rsync to be dropped in favor of slopcoded ones.

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                                  @odd @hailey

                                  The fact that Gentoo, unusually among distros, actually supports (unlimited) multiple versions of a package and for users to pick and choose their versions, means there is a *lot* of latitude for isolating the dangers of slopcoding destroying a package. It's generally always possible to discover that the project fell apart and stopped working, and just tell portage to reinstall the old version. Removing slopcoded trash from the distro is "simply" a matter of removing one choice.

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                                  • hailey@hails.orgH hailey@hails.org

                                    rsync was basically done until the maintainer discovered vibecoding

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                                    @hailey shit. Pinning now ☹️
                                    There goes my backup!

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                                    • hailey@hails.orgH hailey@hails.org

                                      rsync was basically done until the maintainer discovered vibecoding

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                                      @hailey

                                      Wasn’t it the “complete software”?

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