rsync was basically done until the maintainer discovered vibecoding

[80columns@indieweb.social]

I looked through the history and a lot of this would be unnecessary if rsync didn't include a daemon. I, for one, have no use for it, and it seems to me like it would be a good idea to architecturally separate the one-shot CLI tool from the persistent service.

[seanplynch@mastodon.social]

@erik @fionasboots @hailey

+1 informative

[jackemled@furry.engineer]

@viq @fogti @zl2tod @hailey OpenRsync will be really nice when it actually gets developed. Last time I checked it hadn't been touched in forever.

[tilton@fursuits.online]

@hailey oh no. Oh no oh no oh no oh no

[lunadragofelis@void.lgbt]

@hailey wait, is rsync slop now?

[julianoe@mastodon.xyz]

@glitchcake @hailey who doesn't ?

[hsza@social.tudbut.de]

@LunaDragofelis @hailey apparently so

[jackemled@furry.engineer]

@hailey I hope Unison gets a unidirectional mode & also a package for Termux & Chimera Linux. I would probably do it myself if I knew how to package software.

[tkissing@mastodon.social]

@hailey Oh FFS. Pinning time.

[aud@fire.asta.lgbt]

@hailey@hails.org it hurts in places I cannot soothe

[davidcelis@xoxo.zone]

@hailey oh god

[panda@pandas.social]

@tarix29 @hailey

Yes please!!

[ryn@mathstodon.xyz]

@hailey Yikes!

[lordkhan@social.cologne]

@hailey we had things that worked as intended. Now we have AI and start reinventing the wheel.

[gabriel@col.social]

@hailey noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[zillion@freeradical.zone]

@speaktrap @hailey What is the last slop-free version?

[eschwartz@fosstodon.org]

@odd @hailey

Given a choice between freezing all packages before vibe coding was "discovered" and packaging upstream releases, the former is not fully practical. The Gentoo social contract requires following council mandated policies about how one interacts with the Gentoo project, but doesn't control what other projects merge.

The kernel is slopcoded too, but we can't exactly do without that, now can we? Well, okay, we recently added experimental GNU Hurd support.

[eschwartz@fosstodon.org]

@odd @hailey

That doesn't mean we have to put up with horrid slop, it just means that blanket forbidding all LLM assisted software is in practice unenforceable outside our community (where we cannot analyze PRs and require assertion of non-use).

Inevitably the result of slop is that the software deteriorates and doesn't work, and Gentoo may respond by freezing updates or removing it entirely (see chardet being frozen).

We do what we can, and we make our disapproval clear regarding the rest.

[eschwartz@fosstodon.org]

@odd @hailey

I don't expect non-buggy versions of rsync to be dropped in favor of slopcoded ones.

[eschwartz@fosstodon.org]

@odd @hailey

The fact that Gentoo, unusually among distros, actually supports (unlimited) multiple versions of a package and for users to pick and choose their versions, means there is a *lot* of latitude for isolating the dangers of slopcoding destroying a package. It's generally always possible to discover that the project fell apart and stopped working, and just tell portage to reinstall the old version. Removing slopcoded trash from the distro is "simply" a matter of removing one choice.