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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    please also enjoy this beautiful enumeration

    • Smart Auto
    • Auto
    • Enabled
    • Disabled
    • Manual

    i don't know where to begin. would "Enabled" or "Disabled" not imply "Manual"? what the fuck is the difference between "Auto" and "Smart Auto"??

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    @whitequark fuck yeah american megatrends

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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      please also enjoy this beautiful enumeration

      • Smart Auto
      • Auto
      • Enabled
      • Disabled
      • Manual

      i don't know where to begin. would "Enabled" or "Disabled" not imply "Manual"? what the fuck is the difference between "Auto" and "Smart Auto"??

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      💭 why do they call it PCIe Stop & Scream when you enabled DS packet on DMI in with the EP bit set of out in their UT bit set

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        if you want this motherboard, it is unbelievably easy. it's on sale for 30€, including the Xeon CPU it needs: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008826220177.html

        note that it is made to a price point and it is barebones: it has no USB3, for example. but on the flipside, you can split its PCIe x16 graphics port four ways and connect six PCIe Gen3 NVMe drives to it (plus some SATA)

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        @whitequark i was going to ask "how" regarding the splitting, but the AliExpress search results for "pcie riser x4x4x4x4" speak for themselves

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        • jn@boopsnoot.deJ jn@boopsnoot.de

          @whitequark i was going to ask "how" regarding the splitting, but the AliExpress search results for "pcie riser x4x4x4x4" speak for themselves

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          @jn hell yeah baybee

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            please also enjoy this beautiful enumeration

            • Smart Auto
            • Auto
            • Enabled
            • Disabled
            • Manual

            i don't know where to begin. would "Enabled" or "Disabled" not imply "Manual"? what the fuck is the difference between "Auto" and "Smart Auto"??

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            @whitequark this motherboard is a piece of modern art

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              💭 why do they call it PCIe Stop & Scream when you enabled DS packet on DMI in with the EP bit set of out in their UT bit set

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              @whitequark w-what

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                please also enjoy this beautiful enumeration

                • Smart Auto
                • Auto
                • Enabled
                • Disabled
                • Manual

                i don't know where to begin. would "Enabled" or "Disabled" not imply "Manual"? what the fuck is the difference between "Auto" and "Smart Auto"??

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                @whitequark dumb auto, obviously

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                • xyhhx@social.treehouse.systemsX xyhhx@social.treehouse.systems

                  @whitequark dumb auto, obviously

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                  @whitequark (i have no idea)

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    i found an explanation (or what passes for an explanation) for the PCIe Stop & Scream option

                    what the fuck does this mean? ask someone smarter than I am

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                    @whitequark Isn't that this song by OneRepublic?

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                    • artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gayA artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gay

                      @whitequark I should start a conspiracy theory that spread spectrum clocking and memory scrambling are evil attempts to decrease your performance by intel, and use this board to "prove" it

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                      @artemist @whitequark need to try this along with gps disciplining the CPU clock like i did on a pi

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                      • xyhhx@social.treehouse.systemsX xyhhx@social.treehouse.systems

                        @whitequark w-what

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                        @xyhhx context https://social.treehouse.systems/@whitequark/116143444311471353

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                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                          @xyhhx context https://social.treehouse.systems/@whitequark/116143444311471353

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                          @whitequark yeah i found this after and tbh it doesn't clear much up lol

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                            @niconiconi @whitequark but that's Broadwell, just one generation before Skylake, surely its IPC is not _that_ low?
                            And the one they're giving out isn't even low-end, but 10-core.

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                            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                              i found an explanation (or what passes for an explanation) for the PCIe Stop & Scream option

                              what the fuck does this mean? ask someone smarter than I am

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                              @whitequark The explanation in a random Intel chipset doc I found isn't that much better:

                              https://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/datasheet/x58-express-chipset-datasheet.pdf
                              --
                              PCIe/DMI “Stop and Scream”
                              ...per PCIe port
                              ...disallow sending of poisoned data onto PCIe and instead convert disable the PCIe port that was the target of poisoned data
                              ...there have been PCIe/DMI devices that have ignored the poison bit, and committed the data which can corrupt the I/O device
                              --

                              So, disable PCIe port on error, instead of tagging data as poisoned. Nice name.

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                              • jripley@mastodon.socialJ jripley@mastodon.social

                                @whitequark The explanation in a random Intel chipset doc I found isn't that much better:

                                https://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/datasheet/x58-express-chipset-datasheet.pdf
                                --
                                PCIe/DMI “Stop and Scream”
                                ...per PCIe port
                                ...disallow sending of poisoned data onto PCIe and instead convert disable the PCIe port that was the target of poisoned data
                                ...there have been PCIe/DMI devices that have ignored the poison bit, and committed the data which can corrupt the I/O device
                                --

                                So, disable PCIe port on error, instead of tagging data as poisoned. Nice name.

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                                @jripley oh this makes sense!

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                                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                  @jripley oh this makes sense!

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                                  @whitequark I have yet to see an example of integrating PCIe, with data poisoning or not, where every edge case of error propagation can be safely accounted for. Presenting high-speed data buses directly to a CPU as addressable memory was a mistake (but we keep using PCIe nevertheless).

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                                  • jripley@mastodon.socialJ jripley@mastodon.social

                                    @whitequark I have yet to see an example of integrating PCIe, with data poisoning or not, where every edge case of error propagation can be safely accounted for. Presenting high-speed data buses directly to a CPU as addressable memory was a mistake (but we keep using PCIe nevertheless).

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                                    @jripley @whitequark ohhh I bet RC stands for Root Complex

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                                    • mxsparks@social.treehouse.systemsM mxsparks@social.treehouse.systems

                                      @jripley @whitequark ohhh I bet RC stands for Root Complex

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                                      @mxsparks @jripley maaaaybe? it configures a lot more than just the PCIe Root Complex though

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                                        @niconiconi @whitequark meanwhile me with C3958 I paid $700 for (including the motherboard) 😕

                                        Although I guess it might be a bit faster than E5-2630 v4 in multi-threading scenarios, and its TDP is also much lower...

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                                        • ingalovinde@embracing.spaceI ingalovinde@embracing.space

                                          @niconiconi @whitequark meanwhile me with C3958 I paid $700 for (including the motherboard) 😕

                                          Although I guess it might be a bit faster than E5-2630 v4 in multi-threading scenarios, and its TDP is also much lower...

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                                          @niconiconi @whitequark But also, where do you have so many xeons from? It's not like Intel produced billions of them?

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