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I've decided that the violin is not for me.

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  • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

    @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan In a strange convergence of my follows...

    Here's some young person with a cello on a bicycle!!

    https://sfba.social/@ascentale/116542827219022041

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    @ai6yr @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer Not an extremely rare sight here in the Netherlands 😅

    That bicycle infrastructure looks like a death trap though.

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    • johntimaeus@infosec.exchangeJ johntimaeus@infosec.exchange

      @ai6yr @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan

      If you want to use a bow (which I do) the bridge needs a curve on it...most electric sticks don't have half the room needed.

      Even a crappy student-grade upright, well set up, has good resonance. An electric basically makes a sine wave. You can add flavor with pedals, but it's always a little dry.

      Same difference as a 1910-1980 stienway grand and the best nord keyboard you can buy.
      It sounds the same over crappy Bluetooth eatbuds.
      But if you get any closer to the music, you can tell the difference.

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      @johntimaeus @ai6yr @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan

      Played cello as a kid. 100% Team Bow

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      • johntimaeus@infosec.exchangeJ johntimaeus@infosec.exchange

        @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch

        We always have to have a vehicle capable of at least one double bass, 1/2 cubic meter of drums, two suitcases, dance boards (which thankfully breakdown flat), ice chest, and light instruments on top.

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        @johntimaeus @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch despite how most vehicles have grown in size, compare old Camry/Accord to modern Corolla/Civic actual cargo capacity is not so great. My '71 Impala sedan had an enormous trunk, almost enough space under the hood for aux engine, and big cabin. Though no crumple zones, which is why I got so many messages left under wiper saying call if wanted to sell. Demolition drivers wanted it.

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        • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

          @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan In a strange convergence of my follows...

          Here's some young person with a cello on a bicycle!!

          https://sfba.social/@ascentale/116542827219022041

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          @ai6yr

          I threw a cheap guitar in a hiking backpack and road 4 miles to my college class - and then back home after, twice a week - for a summer semester.

          I don't remember it raining any of those days. Lucky...

          Got the credits.

          Gotta do, what you gotta do...

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          • rsanders@sfba.socialR rsanders@sfba.social

            @johntimaeus @ai6yr @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan ah, sorry, just mentioned it as one of the bassists I know uses one for practice when not using a bass guitar.

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            @rsanders @johntimaeus @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan Not sure how this guy's technique is but, as suspected, there's at least a few electric cello covers on YouTube 😂

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVxoq-tw6qU&list=RDeVxoq-tw6qU&start_radio=1

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            • cliffsesport@mastodon.socialC cliffsesport@mastodon.social

              @johntimaeus @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch despite how most vehicles have grown in size, compare old Camry/Accord to modern Corolla/Civic actual cargo capacity is not so great. My '71 Impala sedan had an enormous trunk, almost enough space under the hood for aux engine, and big cabin. Though no crumple zones, which is why I got so many messages left under wiper saying call if wanted to sell. Demolition drivers wanted it.

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              @CliffsEsport @johntimaeus @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch Demolition drivers don't want crumple zones?!?! LOL.

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              • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                @CliffsEsport @johntimaeus @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch Demolition drivers don't want crumple zones?!?! LOL.

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                @ai6yr @johntimaeus @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch Only in their opponent vehicles 😼

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                • johntimaeus@infosec.exchangeJ johntimaeus@infosec.exchange

                  @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan

                  I haven't run across an electric bass that sounds good with a bow.
                  The acoustic-electric travel basses that feel right and don't take two days to settle after set up start at $30k. And still sound like a stick with strings.

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                  @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan Can you rent or borrow basses when you travel? It's not like pianists have to worry about renting a big enough car.

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                  • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                    @rsanders @johntimaeus @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan Not sure how this guy's technique is but, as suspected, there's at least a few electric cello covers on YouTube 😂

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVxoq-tw6qU&list=RDeVxoq-tw6qU&start_radio=1

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                    @ai6yr @johntimaeus @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan From my perspective he's at a skilled technician level in the videos. I'd prefer if he had better dynamics.

                    His use of chorus and delay, along with loopback is enjoyable.

                    With around 250 to 300 hrs of more work I could join him on my electric bass.

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                    • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                      @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan In a strange convergence of my follows...

                      Here's some young person with a cello on a bicycle!!

                      https://sfba.social/@ascentale/116542827219022041

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                      @ai6yr @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan @ascentale A bit strange for me too, that’s my old neighborhood in Oakland 😆 I used to live a couple blocks away and bike though that intersection all the time

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                      • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

                        @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan Can you rent or borrow basses when you travel? It's not like pianists have to worry about renting a big enough car.

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                        @msbellows @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan Having once restored a Hammond Organ, that is most certainly a consideration for those. I think most bands have switched over to simulations of those because they are such a PITA to move.

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                        • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

                          @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan Can you rent or borrow basses when you travel? It's not like pianists have to worry about renting a big enough car.

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                          @msbellows @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer In the professional scene usually not, no. Every bassist I know travels around with their bass. Sometimes on a tour, the organisation helps moving the thing between venues, but given that they often have other gigs in between as well, usually they just have to lug the thing around all the time.

                          Of course, it's different for those lucky few bassists that have a fixed position in an orchestra.

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                          • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                            @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch wow, didn't know you had to consider car size for instruments!

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                            @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch had a friend in college who somehow managed to fit his in a Toyota Celica

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                              @plutarch Hard to say... I'll have to ask my partner, but I think in general the more ergonomic instrument is the cello. The bass does need to be bowed more from the shoulder, as I recall.

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                              @bammerlaan @plutarch imho the whole body is involved in cello - bowing is a big movement, plus you're reaching over the fingerboard for 4th position - I would strongly recommend hiring before buying if you have pain issues. Even just moving the case to get it out for practice could be a concern. A cello in a case is heavy.

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                                @johntimaeus @ai6yr @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan ah, sorry, just mentioned it as one of the bassists I know uses one for practice when not using a bass guitar.

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                                @rsanders @ai6yr @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan

                                No apologies. I know lots of great musicians who love their stick bass. And the really good ones make very good sound. The really good ones cost quite a bit, and still don't quite do it for me.

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                                  @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch had a friend in college who somehow managed to fit his in a Toyota Celica

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                                  @kinsale42 @ai6yr @bammerlaan @plutarch did they have to pop out the front seat?

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                                  • hutterer@mastodon.socialH hutterer@mastodon.social

                                    @kinsale42 @ai6yr @bammerlaan @plutarch did they have to pop out the front seat?

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                                    @hutterer @ai6yr @bammerlaan @plutarch no, but he always had the back seat folded down

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                                      @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch had a friend in college who somehow managed to fit his in a Toyota Celica

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                                      @kinsale42 @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan

                                      So the fastback/FWD configuration actually does have at least one advantage.  Huh.

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                                      • cliffsesport@mastodon.socialC cliffsesport@mastodon.social

                                        @johntimaeus @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch despite how most vehicles have grown in size, compare old Camry/Accord to modern Corolla/Civic actual cargo capacity is not so great. My '71 Impala sedan had an enormous trunk, almost enough space under the hood for aux engine, and big cabin. Though no crumple zones, which is why I got so many messages left under wiper saying call if wanted to sell. Demolition drivers wanted it.

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                                        @CliffsEsport @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch

                                        With proper tetris skills, I've gotten mains, monitors, soundboard, mics & stands, and an upright bass in a hyundai accent hatchback.

                                        The passenger just has to accept the neck of the bass as an armrest.

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                                        • bammerlaan@mastodon.nlB bammerlaan@mastodon.nl

                                          @msbellows @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer In the professional scene usually not, no. Every bassist I know travels around with their bass. Sometimes on a tour, the organisation helps moving the thing between venues, but given that they often have other gigs in between as well, usually they just have to lug the thing around all the time.

                                          Of course, it's different for those lucky few bassists that have a fixed position in an orchestra.

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                                          @bammerlaan @msbellows @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer

                                          There are some rental options, but they tend to either be very badly maintained student instruments, or very expensive rentals with very expensive mandatory insurance.

                                          Either way, you're going to get something that doesn't fit you as well as your own instrument.

                                          For a while I was regularly traveling from Dallas to Chicago and Phoenix. I wanted to play in the Chicago and Phoenix sessions. The cheapest, best option was to find beater basses and set them up with new strings and a little love.

                                          I got the one in Phoenix for free. Like pianos, a lot of people inherit them and leave it in the corner.

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