I've decided that the violin is not for me.
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@johntimaeus @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch despite how most vehicles have grown in size, compare old Camry/Accord to modern Corolla/Civic actual cargo capacity is not so great. My '71 Impala sedan had an enormous trunk, almost enough space under the hood for aux engine, and big cabin. Though no crumple zones, which is why I got so many messages left under wiper saying call if wanted to sell. Demolition drivers wanted it.
@CliffsEsport @johntimaeus @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch Demolition drivers don't want crumple zones?!?! LOL.
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@CliffsEsport @johntimaeus @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch Demolition drivers don't want crumple zones?!?! LOL.
@ai6yr @johntimaeus @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch Only in their opponent vehicles
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@rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan
I haven't run across an electric bass that sounds good with a bow.
The acoustic-electric travel basses that feel right and don't take two days to settle after set up start at $30k. And still sound like a stick with strings.@johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan Can you rent or borrow basses when you travel? It's not like pianists have to worry about renting a big enough car.
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@rsanders @johntimaeus @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan Not sure how this guy's technique is but, as suspected, there's at least a few electric cello covers on YouTube
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@ai6yr @johntimaeus @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan From my perspective he's at a skilled technician level in the videos. I'd prefer if he had better dynamics.
His use of chorus and delay, along with loopback is enjoyable.
With around 250 to 300 hrs of more work I could join him on my electric bass.
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@johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan In a strange convergence of my follows...
Here's some young person with a cello on a bicycle!!
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@bikenite@fedigroups.social A8-2. I also saw this on the way home this week. A parent, riding with kid on the back of an Xtracycle long-tail, with an electric conversion. The kid is carrying a cello(?) as a backpack. https://youtube.com/shorts/BIkPQl39V8w?feature=share #BikeNite
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@ai6yr @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan @ascentale A bit strange for me too, that’s my old neighborhood in Oakland
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@johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan Can you rent or borrow basses when you travel? It's not like pianists have to worry about renting a big enough car.
@msbellows @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan Having once restored a Hammond Organ, that is most certainly a consideration for those. I think most bands have switched over to simulations of those because they are such a PITA to move.
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@johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan Can you rent or borrow basses when you travel? It's not like pianists have to worry about renting a big enough car.
@msbellows @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer In the professional scene usually not, no. Every bassist I know travels around with their bass. Sometimes on a tour, the organisation helps moving the thing between venues, but given that they often have other gigs in between as well, usually they just have to lug the thing around all the time.
Of course, it's different for those lucky few bassists that have a fixed position in an orchestra.
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@hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch wow, didn't know you had to consider car size for instruments!
@ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch had a friend in college who somehow managed to fit his in a Toyota Celica
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@plutarch Hard to say... I'll have to ask my partner, but I think in general the more ergonomic instrument is the cello. The bass does need to be bowed more from the shoulder, as I recall.
@bammerlaan @plutarch imho the whole body is involved in cello - bowing is a big movement, plus you're reaching over the fingerboard for 4th position - I would strongly recommend hiring before buying if you have pain issues. Even just moving the case to get it out for practice could be a concern. A cello in a case is heavy.
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@johntimaeus @ai6yr @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan ah, sorry, just mentioned it as one of the bassists I know uses one for practice when not using a bass guitar.
@rsanders @ai6yr @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan
No apologies. I know lots of great musicians who love their stick bass. And the really good ones make very good sound. The really good ones cost quite a bit, and still don't quite do it for me.
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@ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch had a friend in college who somehow managed to fit his in a Toyota Celica
@kinsale42 @ai6yr @bammerlaan @plutarch did they have to pop out the front seat?
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@kinsale42 @ai6yr @bammerlaan @plutarch did they have to pop out the front seat?
@hutterer @ai6yr @bammerlaan @plutarch no, but he always had the back seat folded down
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@ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch had a friend in college who somehow managed to fit his in a Toyota Celica
@kinsale42 @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan
So the fastback/FWD configuration actually does have at least one advantage. Huh.
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@johntimaeus @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch despite how most vehicles have grown in size, compare old Camry/Accord to modern Corolla/Civic actual cargo capacity is not so great. My '71 Impala sedan had an enormous trunk, almost enough space under the hood for aux engine, and big cabin. Though no crumple zones, which is why I got so many messages left under wiper saying call if wanted to sell. Demolition drivers wanted it.
@CliffsEsport @ai6yr @hutterer @bammerlaan @plutarch
With proper tetris skills, I've gotten mains, monitors, soundboard, mics & stands, and an upright bass in a hyundai accent hatchback.
The passenger just has to accept the neck of the bass as an armrest.
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@msbellows @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer In the professional scene usually not, no. Every bassist I know travels around with their bass. Sometimes on a tour, the organisation helps moving the thing between venues, but given that they often have other gigs in between as well, usually they just have to lug the thing around all the time.
Of course, it's different for those lucky few bassists that have a fixed position in an orchestra.
@bammerlaan @msbellows @rsanders @plutarch @ai6yr @hutterer
There are some rental options, but they tend to either be very badly maintained student instruments, or very expensive rentals with very expensive mandatory insurance.
Either way, you're going to get something that doesn't fit you as well as your own instrument.
For a while I was regularly traveling from Dallas to Chicago and Phoenix. I wanted to play in the Chicago and Phoenix sessions. The cheapest, best option was to find beater basses and set them up with new strings and a little love.
I got the one in Phoenix for free. Like pianos, a lot of people inherit them and leave it in the corner.
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@ai6yr @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan @ascentale A bit strange for me too, that’s my old neighborhood in Oakland
I used to live a couple blocks away and bike though that intersection all the time@scm @ai6yr @johntimaeus @rsanders @plutarch @hutterer @bammerlaan @ascentale My wife has played piano for a Taizé prayer service at a UCC church in Oakland a couple of times and there was a cellist at both who rode his bike there! Actually it was most impressive for his climbing the very steep hill to get there. My instrument is tinwhistle and I highly recommend it for portability.
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@bammerlaan @plutarch imho the whole body is involved in cello - bowing is a big movement, plus you're reaching over the fingerboard for 4th position - I would strongly recommend hiring before buying if you have pain issues. Even just moving the case to get it out for practice could be a concern. A cello in a case is heavy.
@bluetea @bammerlaan @plutarch
The bass means you'll have your left hand up at shoulder level a lot, and bowing is a full right arm movement. If you're like me, you'll also be standing the whole time. I know people who can play upright while sitting, but I'm not one of them.
The cello takes less arm swing, and the left arm doesn't need to come up as high.
Depending on strings, style, and setup, the bass can require a lot more left hand strength, and if you're doing a lot of thumping/slapping pizz without amplification (think bluegrass) right hand too.
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@bluetea @bammerlaan @plutarch
The bass means you'll have your left hand up at shoulder level a lot, and bowing is a full right arm movement. If you're like me, you'll also be standing the whole time. I know people who can play upright while sitting, but I'm not one of them.
The cello takes less arm swing, and the left arm doesn't need to come up as high.
Depending on strings, style, and setup, the bass can require a lot more left hand strength, and if you're doing a lot of thumping/slapping pizz without amplification (think bluegrass) right hand too.
@johntimaeus @bluetea @plutarch Exactly. And don't get me started on the ergonomics of the violin / viola. I was constantly a little bit in pain when I studied it at conservatoire, briefly.
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@johntimaeus @bluetea @plutarch Exactly. And don't get me started on the ergonomics of the violin / viola. I was constantly a little bit in pain when I studied it at conservatoire, briefly.
@bammerlaan @bluetea @plutarch
I had a friend who was convinced all the bad attitudes we saw from violin players came from them always having a tension headache and cramped neck.
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@bammerlaan @bluetea @plutarch
I had a friend who was convinced all the bad attitudes we saw from violin players came from them always having a tension headache and cramped neck.
@johntimaeus @bammerlaan @bluetea
Right upper extremity radicular symptoms in a C6, C7 distribution
Loss of cervical lordosis
C2-C3 anterolisthesis, mobility with flexion extension, 2.6 mmLoss of lumbar lordosis
C5-C6 large left central, foraminal extrusion compressing the exiting left C6 nerve root. Right foraminal protrusion. Bilateral uncovertebral spurring. Moderate right and moderate to severe left foraminal stenosis.
That's (some of) what I already have, violin or none.
