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#Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

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  • yannc@piaille.frY yannc@piaille.fr

    @mathieu_ @AudeCaussarieu
    Je suis quand même un chouilla réservé sur la première photo. Ok, elle semble générée par IA, mais les lignes de fuite sur lesquelles l'analyse se base sont un peu courtes. Difficile d'extrapoler sur un petit segment qui n'est pas nécessairement représentatif ni exact.
    La méthode est intéressante mais pas toujours applicable

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    @YannC quand même il y a largement assez de pixel !

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    • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

      #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

      🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

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      @FabMusacchio Perhaps they came to arrest the tiler?

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      • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

        #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

        🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

        freagle@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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        @FabMusacchio Someone should do this with moon landing videos

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        • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

          #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

          🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

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          #110

          @FabMusacchio I would be more tolerant in the first example with the soldiers, because many builldings are not build perfectly straight or remain like that. If there is only a small error, it would not be a strong indicator for a fake. Of course, this doesn't apply to the other examples.

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          • nihilarc@skastodon.comN nihilarc@skastodon.com

            @FabMusacchio to be fair, the first one the perspective doesn't 100% mean it's fake. It could be that some builder somewhere did a shite job of the tiling.

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            @nihilarc
            Not just that: lens distortion, uneven lighting, confusing shades, etc. - we'll see lots of people claiming something is genai since it's not perfect, but... the world is not perfect. People are already getting called out for AI writing when it's just their style.
            @FabMusacchio

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            • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

              #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

              🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

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              @FabMusacchio Also, what's with the chains? And look at the left thumb on front and center guy.

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              • walrus@toot.walesW walrus@toot.wales

                @nihilarc @FabMusacchio

                As a photographer who is very fond of extremely wide angle lenses, I can tell you these tests will often fail on real images, as well. But the points made are valid...

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                @Walrus @nihilarc @FabMusacchio

                Well, and besides, in a photograph with shadows, what's important is not that the lines don't converge, but that the shadows are basically at different angles, which means (would mean, in the case of a real photo or a render) that the light source is located very close.

                Shadows from an “infinitely” distant sun should be parallel (well, on the scale of a single city square).

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                • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

                  #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

                  🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

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                  #114

                  oh this is a neat trick, I usually look for distorted writing and other small detail, but latest AI models are getting better at those

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                  • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

                    #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

                    🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

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                    @FabMusacchio you forgot to poison your data , you post they learn

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                    • fabmusacchio@mastodon.socialF fabmusacchio@mastodon.social

                      #Deepfakes are everywhere, but #DigitalForensics investigators are fighting back:

                      🌍 https://scim.ag/42dMPBg

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                      #116

                      @FabMusacchio I don't know, I've seen some pretty bad tile jobs 🙂

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