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  3. Sorry to these two reporters, but this article is clearly something they were given a specific direction to write.

Sorry to these two reporters, but this article is clearly something they were given a specific direction to write.

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  • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

    @adamshostack It is amazing reporters can cite Boeing without examining Boeing’s tax and employment in the state pre and post HQ shift, which was all about a then CEO’s personal interests.

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    @glennf If we have to "all about" it, I think it was about breaking the final remnants of an engineering culture that was offensive to the way a few people wanted to talk to Wall St.

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    • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

      Starbucks’s former head, Schultz, is a guy with unresolved family dysfunction issues who saw unions as a personal affront to his role as daddy. Boeing left because execs hated being confronted by local politicians over their disastrous union policies. Amazon hates unions period.

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      Companies hate unions because they reduce arbitrary actions and executive pay. Many claim unions prevent agility. That is because by approaching unionization with a scorched-earth policy of lies and contempt, companies can’t engage in a mutually beneficial process that would result in less turnover, greater productivity, and less absenteeism.

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      • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

        Starbucks’s former head, Schultz, is a guy with unresolved family dysfunction issues who saw unions as a personal affront to his role as daddy. Boeing left because execs hated being confronted by local politicians over their disastrous union policies. Amazon hates unions period.

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        @glennf
        Schultz is such an asshole.

        I'm old enough to remember him putting out a shitty memoir in the hope he could become president.

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        • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

          Companies hate unions because they reduce arbitrary actions and executive pay. Many claim unions prevent agility. That is because by approaching unionization with a scorched-earth policy of lies and contempt, companies can’t engage in a mutually beneficial process that would result in less turnover, greater productivity, and less absenteeism.

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          @glennf That's the model they have in Denmark.

          Flexicurity:
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexicurity

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          • 707kat@mastodon.art7 707kat@mastodon.art

            @glennf That's the model they have in Denmark.

            Flexicurity:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexicurity

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            @707Kat Doesn’t a lot of Germany work this way? Workers councils?

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            • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

              @707Kat Doesn’t a lot of Germany work this way? Workers councils?

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              @glennf Several EU countries implement this approach in different variations. I just mention Denmark, because the term was coined by their former prime minister in the 90s.

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              Flexicurity

              Flexicurity is an integrated strategy for enhancing flexibility and security in the labour market. It aims at reconciliating employers' need for a flexible workforce with workers' need for security–confidence that they will not face long periods of unemployment.

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              Employment, Social Affairs and Inclusion (employment-social-affairs.ec.europa.eu)

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              • adamshostack@infosec.exchangeA adamshostack@infosec.exchange

                @glennf If we have to "all about" it, I think it was about breaking the final remnants of an engineering culture that was offensive to the way a few people wanted to talk to Wall St.

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                @adamshostack @glennf wasn’t there a whole merger with McDonnell Douglas that happened many years ago, causing the shift at Boeing, and has literally nothing to do with the new mayor? Wtf is wrong with journalism. Stop trying to push the billionaire line New York times.

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                • suzannealdrich@hachyderm.ioS suzannealdrich@hachyderm.io

                  @adamshostack @glennf wasn’t there a whole merger with McDonnell Douglas that happened many years ago, causing the shift at Boeing, and has literally nothing to do with the new mayor? Wtf is wrong with journalism. Stop trying to push the billionaire line New York times.

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                  @suzannealdrich Yes, exactly. I'm trolling.

                  @glennf

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                  • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                    I’m not sure which editor or editors demanded the slant on this article, but a better, more nuanced one would have been why nearly all millionaires and companies aren’t going anywhere.

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                    @glennf as it turns out, when you have more money than you could ever spend, taxes at any level don’t change that fact

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                    • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                      @707Kat Doesn’t a lot of Germany work this way? Workers councils?

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                      @glennf @707Kat Yes. Doesn't necessarily help their US branches, though. VW in 2014 approved of unionization in Tennessee, but can't have that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_and_unions#Chattanooga,_Tennessee

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                      • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                        Millionaires always threaten to leave because of taxes. They rarely do. Companies often threaten too. Some move! But it is often bad for them. Millionaires leaving, because of a change in regressive taxation in place, likely frees up resources for the rest of us.

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                        @glennf You might know this already, but KUOW’s “Booming” had an informative episode showing that millionaire flight is a nothing burger. https://overcast.fm/+ABGMZbyCBBI

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                        • pgor@mastodon.socialP pgor@mastodon.social

                          @glennf You might know this already, but KUOW’s “Booming” had an informative episode showing that millionaire flight is a nothing burger. https://overcast.fm/+ABGMZbyCBBI

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                          @pgor I hadn’t listened, but have read a lot about that. Will need to put in my queue!

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                          • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                            Sorry to these two reporters, but this article is clearly something they were given a specific direction to write. You can tell because the body of the story keeps having asides that contradict the entire thesis: answer to headline is NO https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/17/us/politics/seattle-mayor-tax-the-rich-starbucks.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jFA.kD-q.Gb7pC_8u5Zj8&smid=nytcore-ios-share cc @rottenindenmark

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                            @glennf I enjoyed hearing what financial social media person, Ramit Sethi had to say on this. I am paraphrasing.....What's the point of being rich if you do not live where you want to live because of some extremist belief about taxes.

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                            • patrick@retro.socialP patrick@retro.social

                              @glennf @707Kat Yes. Doesn't necessarily help their US branches, though. VW in 2014 approved of unionization in Tennessee, but can't have that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_and_unions#Chattanooga,_Tennessee

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                              @patrick @glennf ironically US companies in the EU are also much better to their workers than they are in the states.

                              This is because the companies aren’t doing it out of their good heart. They are doing it because they have to by law.

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                              • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                                Companies hate unions because they reduce arbitrary actions and executive pay. Many claim unions prevent agility. That is because by approaching unionization with a scorched-earth policy of lies and contempt, companies can’t engage in a mutually beneficial process that would result in less turnover, greater productivity, and less absenteeism.

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                                @glennf agility is mba speak for “blood”

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                                • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                                  Companies hate unions because they reduce arbitrary actions and executive pay. Many claim unions prevent agility. That is because by approaching unionization with a scorched-earth policy of lies and contempt, companies can’t engage in a mutually beneficial process that would result in less turnover, greater productivity, and less absenteeism.

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                                  @glennf How capitalists are approaching labor in the modern era:

                                  "Having to hire human workers who might have pesky demands for more pay, better hours, or better working conditions is but a nuisance to them. They want to streamline their businesses by - ideally - not needing to hire humans at all. They are being sold a dream of a 100% agent operated business where they purchase tokens instead of labor hours, and at a fraction of the cost. After all, agents won’t ever try to unionize. They don’t need weekends off. They don’t get sick or fall pregnant. They can’t strike. They won’t fight back."

                                  #AI
                                  https://www.dialecticsofdecline.com/p/ai-is-destroying-the-career-i-once

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