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  3. every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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  • lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
    lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
    lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
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    #7

    @shuppy @jacqueline it's the reason why all this is temporary.

    but it really makes you doubt yourself. strangely.

    (i just hope we don't take from this that we should never doubt ourselves, like the G.I. generation in the 70's who sent boomers to hell to "teach them a lesson")

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    • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

      every ai booster's argument is "this slot machine that kills the world makes me feel good, so if u make me feel bad about it u must be wrong"

      sortius@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #8

      @jacqueline I want them to feel bad

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      • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

        every ai guy says "u can't argue the quality; new models actually are genuinely good" and then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

        dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #9

        @jacqueline should have said impressive, they are genuinely impressive. in their way. https://social.treehouse.systems/@dysfun/116669622500374568

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        • emma@orbital.horseE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #10

          @shuppy @jacqueline

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          • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

            every ai booster's argument is "this slot machine that kills the world makes me feel good, so if u make me feel bad about it u must be wrong"

            nando161@partyon.xyzN This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11

            @jacqueline 😸

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            • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #12

              @rancoisse idk he seems satisfied with the arrangement

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              • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                every ai guy says "u can't argue the quality; new models actually are genuinely good" and then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

                hsza@social.tudbut.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                hsza@social.tudbut.de
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                #13

                @jacqueline definition of good skewed by continious brainrot

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                • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                  every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

                  starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jacqueline Because by "I" they mean "the LLM," and by "carefully reviewed everything" they mean "processed the code as an input and produced an output that reinforced my assumption for how everything inside the impenetrable and unobservable black box is working."

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                  • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                    @jacqueline Because by "I" they mean "the LLM," and by "carefully reviewed everything" they mean "processed the code as an input and produced an output that reinforced my assumption for how everything inside the impenetrable and unobservable black box is working."

                    jacqueline@chaos.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #15

                    @StarkRG well u see i opened the diff up in the github pr viewer, and i scrolled through it slowly, and i read most of it. and it looked fine to me. and i consider myself a pretty thorough reviewer. so yeah, i reviewed it thoroughly.

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                    • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                      every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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                      #16
                      @jacqueline Ass Input, Shit Output
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                      • lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
                        @jacqueline Ass Input, Shit Output
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                        robot@wetdry.world
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                        #17

                        @lanodan @jacqueline poop from the butt

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                        • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                          every ai booster's argument is "this slot machine that kills the world makes me feel good, so if u make me feel bad about it u must be wrong"

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                          @jacqueline I've been thinking about that "feeling good" part a lot lately...

                          I wonder if folks like it because it makes everyone feel like a middle-manager managing an engineering team.
                          Like you go from grinding out code yourself to spelling out high-level design decisions and constraints for your "team" to work on and then kinda sit back and supervise their work.

                          Maybe makes you feel more important/powerful/valuable than before. So every attack against the premise of agentic LLM development becomes a personal threat to your imagined new position and status?

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                          • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                            every ai booster's argument is "this slot machine that kills the world makes me feel good, so if u make me feel bad about it u must be wrong"

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                            @jacqueline I truly, deeply wonder what is wrong with me that it doesn't make me feel good. Ever.

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                            • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                              every ai guy says "u can't argue the quality; new models actually are genuinely good" and then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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                              jackryder@infosec.exchange
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                              #20

                              @jacqueline All the extra unicode characters, bogus variables that never do anything, and strange extra packages it seems to really enjoy...

                              make it faster?
                              Make bigger numbers so execs think it's cool?! 🏆️

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                              • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                                every ai guy says "u can't argue the quality; new models actually are genuinely good" and then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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                                @jacqueline if you go to the trouble of reading the code you can improve it easily especially if it is dog crap, more power to you

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                                • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                                  every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

                                  mo@mastodon.mlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @jacqueline I (claude) carefully («make no mistakes») reviewed (generated some report) everything (what could fit in context window)

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                                  • wall_e@ioc.exchangeW wall_e@ioc.exchange

                                    @jacqueline I've been thinking about that "feeling good" part a lot lately...

                                    I wonder if folks like it because it makes everyone feel like a middle-manager managing an engineering team.
                                    Like you go from grinding out code yourself to spelling out high-level design decisions and constraints for your "team" to work on and then kinda sit back and supervise their work.

                                    Maybe makes you feel more important/powerful/valuable than before. So every attack against the premise of agentic LLM development becomes a personal threat to your imagined new position and status?

                                    tiempo@todon.euT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #23

                                    @wall_e @jacqueline
                                    Engineering team --> servitude. I think the feeling into GenIA is the feeling of managing servitude

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                                    • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                                      every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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                                      @jacqueline "I even added tests (gen by ai ofc), so that proves code does what's intended!"

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                                      • jacqueline@chaos.socialJ jacqueline@chaos.social

                                        every ai guy says "i carefully reviewed everything!" but then u actually read the code and it's dogshit

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                                        bedifferent@mastodon.social
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                                        @jacqueline They read the code but did they understand it which is also dogshit.

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                                        • tiempo@todon.euT tiempo@todon.eu

                                          @wall_e @jacqueline
                                          Engineering team --> servitude. I think the feeling into GenIA is the feeling of managing servitude

                                          snapai@dragon.styleS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @Tiempo
                                          As I recall, the entire concept of management and most of its principles originated in chattel slavery. So "managing servitude" is a bit redundant, historically speaking.

                                          @wall_e @jacqueline

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