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  • gemlog@tilde.zoneG gemlog@tilde.zone

    @amans Yes, we are in accord. I must reply you in english, but please keep your language to the french. This is my fault, sorry.
    About mental health, I think we must admit that some forms of dysfunction of the mind and thinking are curable, treatable and other forms are not?
    I know there is a kind of taboo about mental health in all countries - some more than others.
    Encore une fois, veuillez répondre en français.
    This is a fun discussion for me - thank you so much! 🙂

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    @gemlog je ne suis pas d'accord avec l'intégralité de ce que vous énoncez là : pour moi tous les désordres de l'esprit sont curables. Même si souvent ça n'aura pas lieu, théoriquement je crois cela possible

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    • gemlog@tilde.zoneG gemlog@tilde.zone

      @amans Yes, we are in accord. I must reply you in english, but please keep your language to the french. This is my fault, sorry.
      About mental health, I think we must admit that some forms of dysfunction of the mind and thinking are curable, treatable and other forms are not?
      I know there is a kind of taboo about mental health in all countries - some more than others.
      Encore une fois, veuillez répondre en français.
      This is a fun discussion for me - thank you so much! 🙂

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      @gemlog en d'autres termes, je ne crois pas que la sociopathie soit congénitale. Même si telle affection génétique ou prédisposition peut bien sûr contribuer à des troubles mentaux... Je crois que l'épigénétique et l'apprentissage sont plus significativement engagés à cet endroit

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      • gemlog@tilde.zoneG gemlog@tilde.zone

        @amans

        l'adultisme ("wrong") que du validisme

        I am not familar with those terms. I was not picking out different "behaviours" or styles of thinking, but different diseases of the brain.
        https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathie?useskin=vector
        Congenital.

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        @gemlog je vous rejoins concernant le tabou qui existent à ces sujets

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        • amans@piaille.frA amans@piaille.fr

          @gemlog oui j'avais compris ça ^^

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          @amans OK good! We may get along! 🙂

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          • amans@piaille.frA amans@piaille.fr

            @gemlog je ne suis pas d'accord avec l'intégralité de ce que vous énoncez là : pour moi tous les désordres de l'esprit sont curables. Même si souvent ça n'aura pas lieu, théoriquement je crois cela possible

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            @amans Well, we now have a basis for discussion, because I think that there are many brain problems which are not curable, although I agree some errors of thinking or imbalances of chemicals in the brain may be corrected through drugs or talk therapy.

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            • amans@piaille.frA amans@piaille.fr

              @gemlog en d'autres termes, je ne crois pas que la sociopathie soit congénitale. Même si telle affection génétique ou prédisposition peut bien sûr contribuer à des troubles mentaux... Je crois que l'épigénétique et l'apprentissage sont plus significativement engagés à cet endroit

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              @amans I never said it was inherited genetically...
              Hmm. Maybe I implied it.
              I am open to rethinking this bit.
              Now.

              Je crois que l'épigénétique et l'apprentissage sont plus significativement engagés à cet endroit

              Now you introduce epigenetics! 🙂
              I am open to your line of thinking. I am.
              I am already suspecting that I am wrong.
              But let us remember that I am UTC-8 from you in our deliberations.
              I must go to bed soon. It's 23h32 for me and I must work tomorrow - yes, even at my age.
              Thank you so much for engaging with me. We will continue more when our time zones match up better. Bonne nuit. Je suis fatigué maintenant. 🫂

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              • amans@piaille.frA amans@piaille.fr

                @gemlog je vous rejoins concernant le tabou qui existent à ces sujets

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                @amans Ah oui. I agree the taboo.
                It happens that my work and volunteering brings me in contact with people who have such situations in their lives.
                It's not fair how societe thinks.
                I know many lovely people who just can't think and work outside of a managed place of living.
                I do befriend them.
                I also actually work alongside people who live in outpatient psych wards.
                These are normal, nice people.
                Just with some medical brain issues.
                I was not talking about them at the start of our conversation.
                I was talking about predator, psychopath, sociopath, greedy bastards like ... fill the blank. You can't fix those with talk therapy or medicines.
                Sorry.
                I'm getting a bit wound up now thinking about trump, netenyahu, putin and the rest...
                I need to get to sleep. It's 23h44.
                Sorry.

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                • gemlog@tilde.zoneG gemlog@tilde.zone

                  @amans I never said it was inherited genetically...
                  Hmm. Maybe I implied it.
                  I am open to rethinking this bit.
                  Now.

                  Je crois que l'épigénétique et l'apprentissage sont plus significativement engagés à cet endroit

                  Now you introduce epigenetics! 🙂
                  I am open to your line of thinking. I am.
                  I am already suspecting that I am wrong.
                  But let us remember that I am UTC-8 from you in our deliberations.
                  I must go to bed soon. It's 23h32 for me and I must work tomorrow - yes, even at my age.
                  Thank you so much for engaging with me. We will continue more when our time zones match up better. Bonne nuit. Je suis fatigué maintenant. 🫂

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                  @amans and now it's 00h34... 🙂 I will really go do-does now.
                  Thank you again for talking to me.

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                  • gemlog@tilde.zoneG gemlog@tilde.zone

                    @amans Ah oui. I agree the taboo.
                    It happens that my work and volunteering brings me in contact with people who have such situations in their lives.
                    It's not fair how societe thinks.
                    I know many lovely people who just can't think and work outside of a managed place of living.
                    I do befriend them.
                    I also actually work alongside people who live in outpatient psych wards.
                    These are normal, nice people.
                    Just with some medical brain issues.
                    I was not talking about them at the start of our conversation.
                    I was talking about predator, psychopath, sociopath, greedy bastards like ... fill the blank. You can't fix those with talk therapy or medicines.
                    Sorry.
                    I'm getting a bit wound up now thinking about trump, netenyahu, putin and the rest...
                    I need to get to sleep. It's 23h44.
                    Sorry.

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                    @gemlog pas de problème avec les décalages, pas d'urgence à ... whatever ? en l'occurrence

                    Oui c'est bien d'avoir commencé à identifier là où nous ne sommes pas d'accord !

                    "You can't fix those" : d'accord & pas accord
                    - "Je" : en effet de là où je suis ça semble à peu près impossible 😅😬🙄😶

                    - "réparer" : est-ce que l'esprit humain se répare ? Qu'est-ce que la guérison ? Le soin ? Le "rétablissement" ? Ces questions sont très difficiles, et je crois que le médecin, a fortiori le psychiatre, qui y répond de façon tranchée oublie que sa discipline tient davantage - ou du moins tout autant - de l'art que de la science 🐾🫗🌒🎰🎭

                    - "ceux-là" : le problème .../...

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                    • amans@piaille.frA amans@piaille.fr

                      @gemlog pas de problème avec les décalages, pas d'urgence à ... whatever ? en l'occurrence

                      Oui c'est bien d'avoir commencé à identifier là où nous ne sommes pas d'accord !

                      "You can't fix those" : d'accord & pas accord
                      - "Je" : en effet de là où je suis ça semble à peu près impossible 😅😬🙄😶

                      - "réparer" : est-ce que l'esprit humain se répare ? Qu'est-ce que la guérison ? Le soin ? Le "rétablissement" ? Ces questions sont très difficiles, et je crois que le médecin, a fortiori le psychiatre, qui y répond de façon tranchée oublie que sa discipline tient davantage - ou du moins tout autant - de l'art que de la science 🐾🫗🌒🎰🎭

                      - "ceux-là" : le problème .../...

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                      @gemlog oui c'est qu'ils (surtout, & elles parfois) ne veulent pas se soigner vraiment, tant identifié-es à leurs "automatismes de détresse", leurs traumas infantiles, leur classe à tendance oui sociopathe - transhumaniste technophile patriarcale capitaliste et mortifère, surtout.
                      Mais la Vie parfois est plus forte que tous les conditionnements & déterminismes socio-biologiques de sorte qu'un être qui semblait fatalement voué à crever dans son jus de merde - s'éveille. L'histoire en témoigne. Toujours laisser une chance à l'innocence et à la transformation. Sinon on valide le principe de la peine de mort ou de la prison à vie

                      .../...

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