Today we had a fire alarm in the office.

[rhew@gulp.cafe]

@tagir_valeev
Have you performed the MOTHER test and ensured its priority is employee wellbeing and not corporate?

Alien had some warnings about AI too

[tagir_valeev@mastodon.online]

@maxsz no, nothing serious!

[gerritvanaaken@typo.social]

@tagir_valeev @343max https://youtu.be/1EBfxjSFAxQ

[tagir_valeev@mastodon.online]

@aadeacon here the fire brigade is alerted automatically as well. If I understand correctly, the building owner cannot deactivate the alarm without the fire brigade.

[aismallard@woem.space]

@tagir_valeev@mastodon.online Simply because it saw that a common response was to indicate it was a drill, untethered from any real signals. And of course these glorified autocomplete prediction systems are being forced everywhere

[majick@mefi.social]

@richlv @tagir_valeev Yeah, I completely agree those factors can very much influence how bad something like that turns out to become. Rarely does someone think a thing they do routinely is actually high risk.

I'd say they fall into the category of "factors" I mentioned as root causes: cultural, management-based (I've lived that life), and so on. Fatigue's one thing, for sure, not the only thing, and sometimes it's stuff like that deprioritizing the seriousness of an alarm. A different cause of fatigue/blasé attitude/misinterpretation.

Like I said, it's almost never the dude and almost always what influenced the dude to be the last link in the chain up to a horrible tragedy.

[up8@mastodon.social]

@tagir_valeev I dunno... it is probably a false alarm 99% of the time; I was in grad student housing where it went off every night and one of the other students got in trouble because he'd made up his mind he was going to stay in bed.

false alarms numb people to real dangers and there should be heavy fines for them

[realgene@hachyderm.io]

@tagir_valeev
Next it will actually set the fire.

[konafets@norden.social]

@tagir_valeev No, not AI, but humans who integrate AI in every fucking tool.

[galamadryade@piaille.fr]

@tagir_valeev
That's insane.

The whole point of siren's test is to actually evacuate a building so they can know how quickly we did it, if we can reach the correct meeting point, etc etc.

[apophis@yourwalls.today]

@tagir_valeev
haters: genAI will never create anything

real genAI: made "this is fine" real

[gullevek@famichiki.jp]

@tagir_valeev Don’t listen to LLMs. They are out to kill you. You could say Terminate you

[greyduck@wellduck.me]

@tagir_valeev Sweet mercy, this scourge needs to be stopped.

Which isn't news to any of us, but sometimes I just gotta say it again.

[katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org]

@tagir_valeev

I don't know, man. If I had just received "advice" that might have caused physical harm or even death, I wouldn't just suppress this specific error and happily continue evaluating, because the bot looks like getting better, "otherwise".

I hope accountability for such decisions is well documented. That won't prevent harm from happening, but at least give employees or their surviving relatives a chance with respect to liability issues and compensations.

@rail

[geert@society.oftrolls.com]

@betalars @daniel_bohrer @Matt_999 @tagir_valeev Exactly. And the other rule is: evacuations are atomic. I.e. once started, you evacuate until full completion. No arguments like "but Simon says it's a false alarm, so we can abort the evacuation".

[tagir_valeev@mastodon.online]

@katzenberger @rail the incident was reported to the vendor, and they are looking at it. Of course, such things should be taken seriously.

[ni@hostux.social]

@tagir_valeev who use Slack anyway?

[irenetherogue@beige.party]

@tagir_valeev loving reminder that AI already has a body count (not just the sexy kind, either)

[tomminieminen@mastodontti.fi]

@tagir_valeev And no one will be held accountable for the losses of life, because AI cannot be prosecuted?

[iju@mastodon.social]

@navi @tagir_valeev

I dunno. I'm sure in some linkedin-culture ignoring fair alarms (be it real or drill) is seen as dedication.