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  • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

    Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

    konafets@norden.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #64

    @tagir_valeev No, not AI, but humans who integrate AI in every fucking tool.

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    • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

      Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

      galamadryade@piaille.frG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #65

      @tagir_valeev
      That's insane.

      The whole point of siren's test is to actually evacuate a building so they can know how quickly we did it, if we can reach the correct meeting point, etc etc.

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      • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

        Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

        apophis@yourwalls.todayA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #66
        @tagir_valeev
        haters: genAI will never create anything

        real genAI: made "this is fine" real
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        • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

          Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

          gullevek@famichiki.jpG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @tagir_valeev Don’t listen to LLMs. They are out to kill you. You could say Terminate you

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          • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

            Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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            #68

            @tagir_valeev Sweet mercy, this scourge needs to be stopped.

            Which isn't news to any of us, but sometimes I just gotta say it again.

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            • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

              @rail sometimes, it's helpful when asked explicitly. Automatic answers are indeed annoying. But it looks like it's getting better, so we are still evaluating.

              katzenberger@tldr.nettime.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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              #69

              @tagir_valeev

              I don't know, man. If I had just received "advice" that might have caused physical harm or even death, I wouldn't just suppress this specific error and happily continue evaluating, because the bot looks like getting better, "otherwise".

              I hope accountability for such decisions is well documented. That won't prevent harm from happening, but at least give employees or their surviving relatives a chance with respect to liability issues and compensations.

              @rail

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              • betalars@chaos.socialB betalars@chaos.social

                Omg so much yes to what @daniel_bohrer wrote. You should even if you know it's a drill actually still leave the building because that's the point of a drill.

                The only situation where that's clearly not necessary is: they are inspecting the fire alarm system itself. But that would be communicated very clearly in advance.

                @Matt_999 @tagir_valeev

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                @betalars @daniel_bohrer @Matt_999 @tagir_valeev Exactly. And the other rule is: evacuations are atomic. I.e. once started, you evacuate until full completion. No arguments like "but Simon says it's a false alarm, so we can abort the evacuation".

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                • katzenberger@tldr.nettime.orgK katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org

                  @tagir_valeev

                  I don't know, man. If I had just received "advice" that might have caused physical harm or even death, I wouldn't just suppress this specific error and happily continue evaluating, because the bot looks like getting better, "otherwise".

                  I hope accountability for such decisions is well documented. That won't prevent harm from happening, but at least give employees or their surviving relatives a chance with respect to liability issues and compensations.

                  @rail

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                  #71

                  @katzenberger @rail the incident was reported to the vendor, and they are looking at it. Of course, such things should be taken seriously.

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                  • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                    Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                    @tagir_valeev who use Slack anyway?

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                    • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                      Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                      @tagir_valeev loving reminder that AI already has a body count (not just the sexy kind, either)

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                      • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                        Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                        @tagir_valeev And no one will be held accountable for the losses of life, because AI cannot be prosecuted? 😡

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                        • navi@catcatnya.comN navi@catcatnya.com

                          @tagir_valeev even if it is "just a drill", you do need to leave the workplace!!!!! fucking LLMs!

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                          @navi @tagir_valeev

                          I dunno. I'm sure in some linkedin-culture ignoring fair alarms (be it real or drill) is seen as dedication.

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                          • sbourne@mastodon.socialS sbourne@mastodon.social

                            @majick @tagir_valeev There are two kinds of alarm testing. One is as you described, where they are testing the alarm structure and functionality. You should get advance notice to ignore the alarms, preferably with a reminder to listen to announcements just in case there's a real emergency in the middle of their test. The other kind is testing the human element, so yeah, you have to leave when they tell you to because you never know.

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                            @sbourne @majick @tagir_valeev I definitely remember at least one fire alarm test (scheduled ahead of time, no evacuation required) where in the middle of the test The Powers That Be got on the intercom and said “actually this isn’t part of the test, gtfo of the building”

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                            • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                              Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                              @tagir_valeev

                              From those wild-eyed radicals at Reuters:

                              reuters.com

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                              (www.reuters.com)

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                              • navi@catcatnya.comN navi@catcatnya.com

                                @tagir_valeev even if it is "just a drill", you do need to leave the workplace!!!!! fucking LLMs!

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                                @navi@catcatnya.com annoyingly some offices have "just testing the alarm" alarms and also drills as 2 separate things ​​

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                                • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                                  Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                                  @tagir_valeev
                                  I think the health and safety executive should take note of that.
                                  I also think that someone wrote and someone released that software, even if they did it in such a way thru don't know how to make it correct.

                                  _They_ will have killed someone.

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                                  • tagir_valeev@mastodon.onlineT tagir_valeev@mastodon.online

                                    Today we had a fire alarm in the office. A colleague wrote to a Slack channel 'Fire alarm in the office building', to start a thread if somebody knows any details. We have AI assistant Glean integrated into the Slack, and it answered privately to her: "today's siren is just a scheduled test and you do not need to leave your workplace". It was not a test or a drill, it was a real fire alarm. Someday, AI will kill us.

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                                    @tagir_valeev Repeated exposure to gaffes like this should train everyone to disbelieve everything with even a whiff of AI.

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                                    • mason@partychickens.netM mason@partychickens.net

                                      @tagir_valeev

                                      From those wild-eyed radicals at Reuters:

                                      reuters.com

                                      favicon

                                      (www.reuters.com)

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                                      @mason @tagir_valeev
                                      "The surgeon warned Hopkins and Acclarent “that there were issues that needed to be resolved,” the complaint adds. Despite that warning, the suit claims, Acclarent “lowered its safety standards to rush the new technology to market,” and set “as a goal only 80% accuracy for some of this new technology before integrating it into the TruDi Navigation System.”"

                                      Would you trust a doctor whose success rate in the operation theatre was just 80%? 🫣😱

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                                      • terrybtwo@ohai.socialT terrybtwo@ohai.social

                                        @tagir_valeev As noted-the implication.of "AI will kill us " is precisely that.

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                                        @TerryBTwo @tagir_valeev No one would ask this question while shuffling down a crowded stairwell and turn back? Or be in the bathroom and hoping not to have to rush out?

                                        It's weird to assume that people won't be a little lazy when LLMs are so successful BECAUSE people are eager to be lazy. Also weird to focus only on a very specific event as how "AI will kill us" when we already have machines driving cars into people, deleting production databases, encouraging people to kill themselves, etc.

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