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Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC.

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  • romion00bie@mastodon.socialR romion00bie@mastodon.social

    @dreamos82 @mcc Jolla Phones were sold out, sadly...

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    @romion00bie @mcc there is a new batch full price, it has still 556 unuts available. https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sep-ii-2026

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    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

      Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

      One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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      @mcc
      'Does your computer work without internet' is literally an 'it's complicated' answer at this point.

      This is just...not good.

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      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

        Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

        One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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        @mcc everything visible anywhere is already a llm input, but I understand the initiative.

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        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

          Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

          One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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          @mcc can't wait until my kid's school gives them one of these 😡

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          • jonfr600@mastodon.socialJ jonfr600@mastodon.social

            @mcc In a recent update. Samsung is increasing their a.i stuff in Android. This with the Google a.i stuff is making Android unusable. I am forced to use Android for various reasons, also because there is no competition on the market.

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            @jonfr600 @mcc at the moment Samsung still seem to allow you to turn all the "AI" stuff off on their 'phones'. Most of the switches are even together in one place ("Galaxy AI") in your settings. I do turn all the "AI" off and then my Android 16 S25 is a perfectly usable device.

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            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

              Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

              One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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              @mcc Fucking disgrace. 😩

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              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                @mcc And to think their strapline used to be: "Don't be evil".

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                • bolomkxxviii@mastodon.socialB bolomkxxviii@mastodon.social

                  @mcc I wonder how locked down the hardware will be. In a couple of years, maybe these things will be cheap, and they can be wiped and have Linux installed on them.

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                  @BoloMKXXVIII

                  Yep.
                  Never tried myself, but apparently installing Linux on chromebooks is doable.
                  A real PITA, but doable.
                  Which makes ARM ones very nice bacpack computers : very light and with incredible battery life.

                  @mcc

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                  • fireye@peoplemaking.gamesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @otte_homan @zambezi @mcc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geofence_warrant

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                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                      Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                      One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                      @mcc time to build a cyberdeck istg

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                      • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

                        @jonfr600 @mcc at the moment Samsung still seem to allow you to turn all the "AI" stuff off on their 'phones'. Most of the switches are even together in one place ("Galaxy AI") in your settings. I do turn all the "AI" off and then my Android 16 S25 is a perfectly usable device.

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                        @marjolica @jonfr600 @mcc

                        I don't appear to have Galaxy AI on my A54 (yet). Also Android 16

                        Gemini is disabled.

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                        • romion00bie@mastodon.socialR romion00bie@mastodon.social

                          @dreamos82 @mcc Jolla Phones were sold out, sadly...

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                          @romion00bie @mcc I see you were mentioning the C2, usually they come back after few weeks (reason i preordered the jolla phone was because the c2 was sold out when i wanted to order it, i suggest wait few weeks, and it should be back hopefully)

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                          • dick_turpin@mastodon.org.ukD dick_turpin@mastodon.org.uk

                            @mcc And to think their strapline used to be: "Don't be evil".

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                            @dick_turpin @mcc If I may be pedantic: it was "Do no evil", which I think meant "Don't get caught doing evil". It is now clear that the people at the top were always evil and now feel they have enough money and power that they don't feel the need to hide it. Like Trumper.

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                              @dick_turpin @mcc If I may be pedantic: it was "Do no evil", which I think meant "Don't get caught doing evil". It is now clear that the people at the top were always evil and now feel they have enough money and power that they don't feel the need to hide it. Like Trumper.

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                              @woo Apparently, now, it's "Do the right thing", which is even more hysterical. And to think everyone wanted to be associated with them when they first appeared.

                              @mcc

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                              • thelancashireman@hostux.socialT thelancashireman@hostux.social

                                @marjolica @jonfr600 @mcc

                                I don't appear to have Galaxy AI on my A54 (yet). Also Android 16

                                Gemini is disabled.

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                                @TheLancashireman @jonfr600 @mcc I think it might be a S-Series thing. Samsung were very big on selling it as AI capable. All I wanted was the smallest phone possible, 3 camera lenses and a long support cycle. Though I'm starting to worry about the last if later Android versions remove the "AI" optionality and ruin the UI (like Apple seemingly has with Liquid Glass). I'd just be happy with getting security updates.

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                                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                  Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

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                                  @mcc or a Linux phone is an option too

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                                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                    Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                                    One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                                    @mcc Googlebog

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                                    • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                                      @kkarhan @mcc @EUCommission

                                      I assumed they "went with Motorola" because they were the only ones to return their calls. It's not like there is a huge or vocal movement for de-Googled Android phones. It's still incredibly niche. I really hope the partnership with Motorola helps more people realize that such a thing is even possible.

                                      I looked up "Device Attestation" for GrapheneOS.

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                                      Guide on using remote attestation in a way that's compatible with GrapheneOS.

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                                      Is that what you are talking about? How they support and use a lower level of "attestation" so that people who make Android apps won't feel compelled to force their apps to only be valid when "attested" via the official Google Play Store? That sounds like a good thing. It sounds like a necessary thing before some developers will even consider supporting GrapheneOS.

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                                      @jrdepriest @mcc well, I don't buy that #Motorola ain't the only ones, but they made up excuses why they don't want to talk to others like #Fairphone.

                                      As for "#DeviceAttestation" it's their caving-in on #malware-like features for "#Banking" #Apps and other shite that demands absurd controls.

                                      - The whole idea is bad because "Device Attestation" against #rooting will "succeed" on a Garbage Phone (running an outdated & insecure #Android version) from the "P.R." China (laced with #malware from the factory/exporter in the #Firmware) but "fail" on a #Fairphone6 with @e_mydata / #eOS running the latest supported version ...

                                      It's the same shite as #StarForce, #SecuROM, #Denuvo and other #DRM, but worse!!!

                                      - And we all know how that went well...

                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-wyIalhdPU
                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ltfyqD3lM
                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV3rsPEZAQg
                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q-tc38hHiY

                                      #sarcasm #commentary

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                                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                        Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                                        One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                                        @mcc
                                        "Built for Gemini" sounds ominous.
                                        @cstross

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                                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                          Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                                          One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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                                          @mcc
                                          Basically, unless you use Linux or BSD, you don't actually own a computer any more.

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