Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC.
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@mcc I wonder how locked down the hardware will be. In a couple of years, maybe these things will be cheap, and they can be wiped and have Linux installed on them.
Yep.
Never tried myself, but apparently installing Linux on chromebooks is doable.
A real PITA, but doable.
Which makes ARM ones very nice bacpack computers : very light and with incredible battery life. -
Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/
One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high
@mcc time to build a cyberdeck istg
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I don't appear to have Galaxy AI on my A54 (yet). Also Android 16
Gemini is disabled.
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@dreamos82 @mcc Jolla Phones were sold out, sadly...
@romion00bie @mcc I see you were mentioning the C2, usually they come back after few weeks (reason i preordered the jolla phone was because the c2 was sold out when i wanted to order it, i suggest wait few weeks, and it should be back hopefully)
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@mcc And to think their strapline used to be: "Don't be evil".
@dick_turpin @mcc If I may be pedantic: it was "Do no evil", which I think meant "Don't get caught doing evil". It is now clear that the people at the top were always evil and now feel they have enough money and power that they don't feel the need to hide it. Like Trumper.
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@dick_turpin @mcc If I may be pedantic: it was "Do no evil", which I think meant "Don't get caught doing evil". It is now clear that the people at the top were always evil and now feel they have enough money and power that they don't feel the need to hide it. Like Trumper.
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I don't appear to have Galaxy AI on my A54 (yet). Also Android 16
Gemini is disabled.
@TheLancashireman @jonfr600 @mcc I think it might be a S-Series thing. Samsung were very big on selling it as AI capable. All I wanted was the smallest phone possible, 3 camera lenses and a long support cycle. Though I'm starting to worry about the last if later Android versions remove the "AI" optionality and ruin the UI (like Apple seemingly has with Liquid Glass). I'd just be happy with getting security updates.
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Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)
@mcc or a Linux phone is an option too
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Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/
One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high
@mcc Googlebog
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I assumed they "went with Motorola" because they were the only ones to return their calls. It's not like there is a huge or vocal movement for de-Googled Android phones. It's still incredibly niche. I really hope the partnership with Motorola helps more people realize that such a thing is even possible.
I looked up "Device Attestation" for GrapheneOS.
GrapheneOS attestation compatibility guide
Guide on using remote attestation in a way that's compatible with GrapheneOS.
GrapheneOS (grapheneos.org)
Is that what you are talking about? How they support and use a lower level of "attestation" so that people who make Android apps won't feel compelled to force their apps to only be valid when "attested" via the official Google Play Store? That sounds like a good thing. It sounds like a necessary thing before some developers will even consider supporting GrapheneOS.
@jrdepriest @mcc well, I don't buy that #Motorola ain't the only ones, but they made up excuses why they don't want to talk to others like #Fairphone.
As for "#DeviceAttestation" it's their caving-in on #malware-like features for "#Banking" #Apps and other shite that demands absurd controls.
- The whole idea is bad because "Device Attestation" against #rooting will "succeed" on a Garbage Phone (running an outdated & insecure #Android version) from the "P.R." China (laced with #malware from the factory/exporter in the #Firmware) but "fail" on a #Fairphone6 with @e_mydata / #eOS running the latest supported version ...
It's the same shite as #StarForce, #SecuROM, #Denuvo and other #DRM, but worse!!!
- And we all know how that went well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-wyIalhdPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ltfyqD3lM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV3rsPEZAQg
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Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/
One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high
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Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/
One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high
@mcc
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@jrdepriest @kkarhan @mcc It's my current solution. The only thing I worry about is that Google controls AOSP. I don't know if Graphene could pivot from being a fork to being a full OS by themselves.
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@jrdepriest @kkarhan @mcc It's my current solution. The only thing I worry about is that Google controls AOSP. I don't know if Graphene could pivot from being a fork to being a full OS by themselves.
@Secret_Squirrel @jrdepriest @mcc they don't even try as they purposefully kneecapcthemselves with arbitrary reasons to bot support repairable devices, relying on security blackbox ICs for their ROMs.
- Like don't even get @stman ob how much of a self-sabotage it is, when #BitLocker's #Govware #Backdoors (!!!) are on public display…
TelH90 (@kkarhan@c.im)
@GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social I never trusted #BitLocker with it's #Govware - #Backdoor anyway! - Cuz now people put that trust into some #BackBox IC (#TPM) that is usually soldered down on the board that may or may not be #exploitable from the factory (whether due to #bugs, #incompetence or "Export Restrictions #Compliance" is irrelevant for the affected End-Users!)… - If (for some horrible reason that I refuse to acknowledge as legitimate!) someone needs a #Windows machine BUT with #FullDiskEncryption, they should use the only REAL #FDE: #VeraCrypt! #CensorBoot never was about #Security… - Calling it "#SecureBoot" is adopting the enemy's #Propaganda-Speak!
C.IM (c.im)
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Yep.
Never tried myself, but apparently installing Linux on chromebooks is doable.
A real PITA, but doable.
Which makes ARM ones very nice bacpack computers : very light and with incredible battery life. -
@ophis @mcc @xgranade Here’s a link that explains the differences between the two versions. The company’s product page doesn’t even mention the US version. https://www.phonearena.com/news/the-us-version-of-the-barbie-phone-is-better-than-the-global-one_id161984
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@Secret_Squirrel @jrdepriest @mcc they don't even try as they purposefully kneecapcthemselves with arbitrary reasons to bot support repairable devices, relying on security blackbox ICs for their ROMs.
- Like don't even get @stman ob how much of a self-sabotage it is, when #BitLocker's #Govware #Backdoors (!!!) are on public display…
TelH90 (@kkarhan@c.im)
@GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social I never trusted #BitLocker with it's #Govware - #Backdoor anyway! - Cuz now people put that trust into some #BackBox IC (#TPM) that is usually soldered down on the board that may or may not be #exploitable from the factory (whether due to #bugs, #incompetence or "Export Restrictions #Compliance" is irrelevant for the affected End-Users!)… - If (for some horrible reason that I refuse to acknowledge as legitimate!) someone needs a #Windows machine BUT with #FullDiskEncryption, they should use the only REAL #FDE: #VeraCrypt! #CensorBoot never was about #Security… - Calling it "#SecureBoot" is adopting the enemy's #Propaganda-Speak!
C.IM (c.im)
@Secret_Squirrel @jrdepriest @mcc Personally I believe that if anyone is capable of doing a successful #Android - #Fork that isn't a #CCSS thing (#Huawei #HarmonyOS) or designed to compete as a commercial endeavour ( @e_mydata / #eOS), it's gonna be @LineageOS / #lineageOS…
- #GrapheneOS's "My way or the Highway!" - approach makes them so toxic that I'd rather daily-drive #OpenBSD on an 80x25 terminal as my sole device than having to deal with the former…
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Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/
One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high
@mcc
My kid is requires to have a chromebook for school so we are teaching our children to accept big brother watching every move our children make, whether awake or asleep. -
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