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  3. As always the massive Together Alliance march against the far right already involves a dispute about how many were involved - organisers claim half a million, the police say 50,000 (while admitting they found it difficult to count).

As always the massive Together Alliance march against the far right already involves a dispute about how many were involved - organisers claim half a million, the police say 50,000 (while admitting they found it difficult to count).

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  • 2legged@mastodon.ie2 2legged@mastodon.ie

    @ChrisMayLA6 Sadly, #NoKings is just a day out for centrists who like cosplaying with a bold slogan.

    A real "no kings" movement would have actual goals and demands, and a plan to dismantle the #ImperialPresidency ... but https://www.nokings.org/about-nk has none of that. It's just a fancy label for anti-Trump rallies by the so-called "Democrats" to restore the failed neoliberals to power, removing #Trump's oligarchic fascists with the blue corporate fascists, but without restraining the empire.

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    @2legged @ChrisMayLA6

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      @2legged @ChrisMayLA6

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      @nando161 What's your point?

      @ChrisMayLA6

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      • 2legged@mastodon.ie2 2legged@mastodon.ie

        @nando161 What's your point?

        @ChrisMayLA6

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        @2legged @ChrisMayLA6 whats my point and Mark Brays point??

        An anarchist insurrection must take place in the present very shortly to overthrow all rightwing fascist ideologies, we are reaching a tipping point where the working class is at mass stress levels, the only way out of this clusterfuck is insurrection.

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          @ginger_tosser

          well there may well be a different between what the know and what they say... which wouldn't be the first time

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          • 2legged@mastodon.ie2 2legged@mastodon.ie

            @ChrisMayLA6 Sadly, #NoKings is just a day out for centrists who like cosplaying with a bold slogan.

            A real "no kings" movement would have actual goals and demands, and a plan to dismantle the #ImperialPresidency ... but https://www.nokings.org/about-nk has none of that. It's just a fancy label for anti-Trump rallies by the so-called "Democrats" to restore the failed neoliberals to power, removing #Trump's oligarchic fascists with the blue corporate fascists, but without restraining the empire.

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            @2legged

            While I'm sure that a significant element, from a distance (at least) it looks a little less singular than that - there would seem to be some (at least) on the NoKings marches who have a more radical game plan... although I cold also be mistaken (I accept)

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            • nando161@partyon.xyzN nando161@partyon.xyz

              @2legged @ChrisMayLA6 whats my point and Mark Brays point??

              An anarchist insurrection must take place in the present very shortly to overthrow all rightwing fascist ideologies, we are reaching a tipping point where the working class is at mass stress levels, the only way out of this clusterfuck is insurrection.

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              @nando161 I am v sympathetic to anarchist perspectives. But they are a very different prospect to the vague #NoKings campaign, which seems firmly statist.

              @ChrisMayLA6

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              • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

                @2legged

                While I'm sure that a significant element, from a distance (at least) it looks a little less singular than that - there would seem to be some (at least) on the NoKings marches who have a more radical game plan... although I cold also be mistaken (I accept)

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                @ChrisMayLA6 Yes, there probably are some with a more radical plan, possibly much more radical. There are probably huge debates in private.

                But ir's still remarkable that there is absolutely no beef at all on the "#NoKings" slogan. I would have expected at least some specifics

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                • 2legged@mastodon.ie2 2legged@mastodon.ie

                  @nando161 I am v sympathetic to anarchist perspectives. But they are a very different prospect to the vague #NoKings campaign, which seems firmly statist.

                  @ChrisMayLA6

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                  @2legged @ChrisMayLA6 and yes us anarchists of all sorts will firmly say fuck the state and fuck statism...

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                  • nando161@partyon.xyzN nando161@partyon.xyz

                    @2legged @ChrisMayLA6 and yes us anarchists of all sorts will firmly say fuck the state and fuck statism...

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                    @nando161 The world would indeed be a much safer place if #TheGreatSatan were ni longer a state!

                    But I'm not seeing much of that in these marches 😞

                    @ChrisMayLA6

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                    • 2legged@mastodon.ie2 2legged@mastodon.ie

                      @nando161 The world would indeed be a much safer place if #TheGreatSatan were ni longer a state!

                      But I'm not seeing much of that in these marches 😞

                      @ChrisMayLA6

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                      @2legged @ChrisMayLA6

                      the world would be a much safer place if an anarchist insurrection took place today....

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                      • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

                        As always the massive Together Alliance march against the far right already involves a dispute about how many were involved - organisers claim half a million, the police say 50,000 (while admitting they found it difficult to count). That's a pretty big disparity... but film on the Guardian website suggests a big demo, so perhaps we might say the average of the two estimates - quarter of a million?

                        In any case, great to see people out en-masse demonstrating!

                        #politics
                        https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2026/mar/28/london-protest-march-together-alliance-against-the-far-right-latest-news-updates

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                        @ChrisMayLA6 Or just don’t believe the police.

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