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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.

    I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.

    I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?

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    #11

    @cwebber if you find out I'd love to know.

    Right now I feel like all phones have to either run android or run iOS and there aren't any other options that I know of in the US.

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    • olasd@mastodon.opportunis.meO olasd@mastodon.opportunis.me

      @cwebber (you still need a phone number and to interact with recaptcha for the account creation, afaik there's no way around it)

      cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #12

      @olasd I'm okay with needing the phone number even if I don't prefer it, but I don't want to have to use one of "the two mobile platforms"

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.

        I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.

        I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?

        maryjane@social.coletivos.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #13

        @cwebber I use signal-cli (https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli) unofficial signal client to register the account, and act as the main client.
        And then I link it to the official signal desktop application so that it is not all cli.

        It is annoying to setup, cause, captchas, and pasting URL into the cli client to link them. but works.

        EDIT: And to add to the annoyance, signal expects that you open the main client often so you need to open the cli client and fetch messages like once a week. pfff....

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.

          I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.

          I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?

          z3r0fox@mastodon.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #14

          @cwebber Apparently this is Coming Soon(tm)

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.

            I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.

            I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?

            bouncinglime@spanner.worksB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #15

            @cwebber subscribing to this thread

            signal is the major thing holding me back from switching to a LightPhone

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.

              I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.

              I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?

              hypostase@bsd.networkH This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cwebber
              If googevil carries out it's Evil September threat I may end up going back to apple as the lesser evil, just for this reason.

              I think SailfishOS tries with Whisperfish but I'm not that confident I understand the holes.

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              • z3r0fox@mastodon.socialZ z3r0fox@mastodon.social

                @cwebber Apparently this is Coming Soon(tm)

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                fireye@peoplemaking.gamesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #17

                @z3r0fox @cwebber +1 here I saw some standalone work done here recently

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                A few updates for the standalone registration flow · signalapp/Signal-Desktop@0fb80a2

                A private messenger for Windows, macOS, and Linux. - A few updates for the standalone registration flow · signalapp/Signal-Desktop@0fb80a2

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.

                  I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.

                  I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?

                  sprocketclown@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #18

                  @cwebber are you on a Linux phone then?

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                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                    There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.

                    I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.

                    I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?

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                    #19

                    @cwebber There working on making it possible to use signal desktop without a phone right? Linux phones are getting close to usable these days, too.

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.

                      I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.

                      I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?

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                      @cwebber Does Waydroid count?
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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.

                        I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.

                        I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?

                        timorl@social.wuatek.isT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #21

                        There's dozens of us! Dozens!

                        Anyway, here: https://gist.github.com/gruz/37ecc18353121759f7104f6a23f7fbc5 . Ignore the "Windows" in the title, it's irrelevant and the instructions translate trivially to whatever distro you are using.

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.

                          I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.

                          I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?

                          linear@nya.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @cwebber@social.coop there's an unsanctioned CLI tool that lets you do this, but Signal has been known to be hostile towards users using such tools in the past.

                          supposedly they will be adding an official way to do this soon.
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                          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                            There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.

                            I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.

                            I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?

                            thufie@social.pixie.townT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @cwebber After reading this thread: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/11451/cant-install-whatsapp-or-signal-on-waydroid/14

                            You could probably install Langis or whatever non-gapps version of Signal in waydroid via a custom F-Droid repo. I'd stick to a non-android phone OS with waydroid support at the very least, so you can try this. However it might be worth setting up waydroid on a computer and testing this is still possible first. Might be possible to setup waydroid with a Google-Apps android image as well, but I'm not sure how restricted that is. Unfortunately none of these Signal forks support alternatives to gapps push notifications, though, so your notifications on new messages will be delayed. Hopefully one of these will support Sunup as a push notifications provider someday. I think it should be possible, people in the thread I linked have done something similar before fairly recently.

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