There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@cwebber I've helped my partner set up https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli and we've been using it for a couple of years now with almost no issues. (signal-cli receive is running as a cronjob on their laptop). We missed an update to the protocol/cli a couple of months back and had to do the account enrollment again, but we did it within a couple of days so group memberships hadn't lapsed and it ended up being quasi transparent
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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@Christine Lemmer-Webber Good question, I never realized that tbh. I've had Android devices since... well, basically forever.
That period is probably ending this year, when Fairphone stops its support for the 4. I want to switch to something else, probably Ubuntu Touch.
Never realised Signal could become a challenge then. Sure, I use Signal primarily from within Element, using a bridge, but every now and then I need "the real thing".
Going to follow this thread
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@cwebber Signal is working on Desktop too, maye that's a workaround (but not a very flexible mobile one)
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@cwebber Signal is working on Desktop too, maye that's a workaround (but not a very flexible mobile one)
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@cwebber I've helped my partner set up https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli and we've been using it for a couple of years now with almost no issues. (signal-cli receive is running as a cronjob on their laptop). We missed an update to the protocol/cli a couple of months back and had to do the account enrollment again, but we did it within a couple of days so group memberships hadn't lapsed and it ended up being quasi transparent
@cwebber (you still need a phone number and to interact with recaptcha for the account creation, afaik there's no way around it)
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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@cwebber I am very much interested in this as well. Signal keeps me tethered to a smartphone in a way I'm hoping to avoid.
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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@cwebber if you find out I'd love to know.
Right now I feel like all phones have to either run android or run iOS and there aren't any other options that I know of in the US.
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@cwebber (you still need a phone number and to interact with recaptcha for the account creation, afaik there's no way around it)
@olasd I'm okay with needing the phone number even if I don't prefer it, but I don't want to have to use one of "the two mobile platforms"
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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@cwebber I use signal-cli (https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli) unofficial signal client to register the account, and act as the main client.
And then I link it to the official signal desktop application so that it is not all cli.It is annoying to setup, cause, captchas, and pasting URL into the cli client to link them. but works.
EDIT: And to add to the annoyance, signal expects that you open the main client often so you need to open the cli client and fetch messages like once a week. pfff....
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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@cwebber Apparently this is Coming Soon(tm)
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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@cwebber subscribing to this thread
signal is the major thing holding me back from switching to a LightPhone
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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@cwebber
If googevil carries out it's Evil September threat I may end up going back to apple as the lesser evil, just for this reason.I think SailfishOS tries with Whisperfish but I'm not that confident I understand the holes.
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@cwebber Apparently this is Coming Soon(tm)
@z3r0fox @cwebber +1 here I saw some standalone work done here recently
A few updates for the standalone registration flow · signalapp/Signal-Desktop@0fb80a2
A private messenger for Windows, macOS, and Linux. - A few updates for the standalone registration flow · signalapp/Signal-Desktop@0fb80a2
GitHub (github.com)
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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@cwebber are you on a Linux phone then?
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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@cwebber There working on making it possible to use signal desktop without a phone right? Linux phones are getting close to usable these days, too.
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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@cwebber Does Waydroid count? -
There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
There's dozens of us! Dozens!
Anyway, here: https://gist.github.com/gruz/37ecc18353121759f7104f6a23f7fbc5 . Ignore the "Windows" in the title, it's irrelevant and the instructions translate trivially to whatever distro you are using.
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There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@cwebber@social.coop there's an unsanctioned CLI tool that lets you do this, but Signal has been known to be hostile towards users using such tools in the past.
supposedly they will be adding an official way to do this soon. -
There is really only one thing keeping me tied to Google stuff: the fact that I don't really know how to use Signal without having an Android'y device.
I actually don't want any kind of Android or Android-based device. I could use Graphene but I don't want to use that either.
I'd like to get less reliant on Signal too, but here's a challenge: is anyone successfully running Signal with *no* iOS or Android-type devices involved in the process and maintaining their account? How are you doing it?
@cwebber After reading this thread: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/11451/cant-install-whatsapp-or-signal-on-waydroid/14
You could probably install Langis or whatever non-gapps version of Signal in waydroid via a custom F-Droid repo. I'd stick to a non-android phone OS with waydroid support at the very least, so you can try this. However it might be worth setting up waydroid on a computer and testing this is still possible first. Might be possible to setup waydroid with a Google-Apps android image as well, but I'm not sure how restricted that is. Unfortunately none of these Signal forks support alternatives to gapps push notifications, though, so your notifications on new messages will be delayed. Hopefully one of these will support Sunup as a push notifications provider someday. I think it should be possible, people in the thread I linked have done something similar before fairly recently.
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