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  • indigoparadox@mastodon.socialI indigoparadox@mastodon.social

    @gloriouscow Half my console mods look like this... But it's on purpose. You gotta route some legs elsewhere on the motherboard. 😩

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    @gloriouscow https://mastodon.social/@indigoparadox/116242551069280379

    What's important is it works, right?

    Right?! 🥺

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      @gloriouscow

      You laugh but I'm saving this to my clip art folder for when I write instructions for my soldering classes. It's a good clear drawing of everything that can go wrong.

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      @futurebird@sauropods.win @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space Needs the off-by-one pin error and the magic smoke escaping to show everything.

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      • nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social

        @gloriouscow One might think "well no one would make such a mistake, duh!" but it's actually super easy to accidentally do this. I've had it happen with mere 8-bin chips even... (Ironically I'm thinking of socketed OPAMPs here as I don't have so much experience with PCs where you could actually swap chips out, but in other words it's still a thing.)

        The worst thing was I had one that bent enough that when I tried to bend it back with pliers it broke off.

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        @nazokiyoubinbou we've all done it. maybe not three simultaneously - the internally bent pin is particularly nefarious because its hard to see.

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        • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

          helpful tip

          #retrocomputing

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          @gloriouscow you're telling me i've been doing it wrong zhis whole time??

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          • kim@fedi.socialK kim@fedi.social

            @futurebird@sauropods.win @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space Needs the off-by-one pin error and the magic smoke escaping to show everything.

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            @kim @gloriouscow

            Or have the whole thing in backwards...

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            • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

              helpful tip

              #retrocomputing

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              @gloriouscow reminds me of piggybacking ROM/DRAM chips
              (you have to have separate CAS/RAS and CS pins, most other are connected 1:1 so its often easier to just lift the few and solder the rest one on another)
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                @gloriouscow reminds me of piggybacking ROM/DRAM chips
                (you have to have separate CAS/RAS and CS pins, most other are connected 1:1 so its often easier to just lift the few and solder the rest one on another)
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                @gorplop It's the lazy way to replace a bad DRAM, i've done it 😄

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  @kim @gloriouscow

                  Or have the whole thing in backwards...

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                  @futurebird@sauropods.win @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space My usual trick is to carefully pay attention to the notch/dot to ensure that doesn't happen, oblivious to Past Me having failed to be as rigorous when installing the socket. 🤦‍♀️

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                  • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                    @nazokiyoubinbou we've all done it. maybe not three simultaneously - the internally bent pin is particularly nefarious because its hard to see.

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                    @gloriouscow Oof, you're not kidding. I missed it even in the illustration here clearly showing it...

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                    • adorfer@chaos.socialA adorfer@chaos.social

                      @gloriouscow perhaps spin it 180 degrees.

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                      @adorfer

                      it is a scan from a manual

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                      • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                        helpful tip

                        #retrocomputing

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                        @gloriouscow [chuckles]

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                        • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                          helpful tip

                          #retrocomputing

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                          @gloriouscow

                          Oh its ok, that's why there's so many pins.

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                          • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                            helpful tip

                            #retrocomputing

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                            @gloriouscow I felt physical pain seeing this.

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                            • mousey@mastodon.seattlematrix.orgM mousey@mastodon.seattlematrix.org

                              @gloriouscow I felt physical pain seeing this.

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                              @mousey

                              you're welcome

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                              • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                helpful tip

                                #retrocomputing

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                                @gloriouscow I just know these things demand a blood sacrifice. Poking your finger, ideally under the finger nails or something.

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                                • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                  helpful tip

                                  #retrocomputing

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                                  @gloriouscow the pin that is fourth from the right, bent outwards: the socket does not have a hole for that pin
                                  the chip installation was doomed to be incorrect

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                                  • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                    helpful tip

                                    #retrocomputing

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                                    @gloriouscow that hurts to look at

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                                    • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                      helpful tip

                                      #retrocomputing

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                                      @gloriouscow depends, if you want to alter the functionality of the chip this might be correct.

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                                      • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                        helpful tip

                                        #retrocomputing

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                                        @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space Please CW your gore posts.

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                                        • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                          helpful tip

                                          #retrocomputing

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                                          @gloriouscow so thats why my stuff won't work
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